To me, the Pandora audio quality seems fixed in official FRG22D

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Reviving this thread to see what folks are doing with the problem these days? I was non-rooted during this discussion but have since rooted. Now I'm wondering what my best bet is for good Pandora sound quality. Should I change the build.prop stagefright http entry to false (right now all 4 stagefright entries are true)? Any news?
 

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Reviving this thread to see what folks are doing with the problem these days? I was non-rooted during this discussion but have since rooted. Now I'm wondering what my best bet is for good Pandora sound quality. Should I change the build.prop stagefright http entry to false (right now all 4 stagefright entries are true)? Any news?

What ROM are you running? I think most ROMs that are from the latest build have this issue resolved ... I am running Sapphire 1.1.1 and Pandora sounds great - plus there are extra setting built in that allow you to tweak the audio quality (DSP Manager).
 

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Reviving this thread to see what folks are doing with the problem these days? I was non-rooted during this discussion but have since rooted. Now I'm wondering what my best bet is for good Pandora sound quality. Should I change the build.prop stagefright http entry to false (right now all 4 stagefright entries are true)? Any news?

What ROM are you running? I think most ROMs that are from the latest build have this issue resolved ... I am running Sapphire 1.1.1 and Pandora sounds great - plus there are extra setting built in that allow you to tweak the audio quality (DSP Manager).
Thanks for the reply. I'm running UD8 and it does have DSP Manager, but that doesn't fix the problem. UD8 is from the latest build. Are you listening to Pandora on a real stereo system or headphones? On headphones things sound fine, but on a real stereo (my car) the bass is missing and some highs are tinny on every other song or so. FRG22D didn't fix this (see earlier posts from MotoCache in this thread), but folks are doing things with StageFright to improve it. On Sapphire, can you look at build.prop and look at the http entry and see if it's true or false?
 

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Reviving this thread to see what folks are doing with the problem these days? I was non-rooted during this discussion but have since rooted. Now I'm wondering what my best bet is for good Pandora sound quality. Should I change the build.prop stagefright http entry to false (right now all 4 stagefright entries are true)? Any news?

What ROM are you running? I think most ROMs that are from the latest build have this issue resolved ... I am running Sapphire 1.1.1 and Pandora sounds great - plus there are extra setting built in that allow you to tweak the audio quality (DSP Manager).
Thanks for the reply. I'm running UD8 and it does have DSP Manager, but that doesn't fix the problem. UD8 is from the latest build. Are you listening to Pandora on a real stereo system or headphones? On headphones things sound fine, but on a real stereo (my car) the bass is missing and some highs are tinny on every other song or so. FRG22D didn't fix this (see earlier posts from MotoCache in this thread), but folks are doing things with StageFright to improve it. On Sapphire, can you look at build.prop and look at the http entry and see if it's true or false?

Ah, I see - strictly headphones here for me.

All the stagefright settings in sapphire are true, BTW.
Prior to this build, I did change the http to false and noticed a HUGE difference, but again, I only use headphones ...
 

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What ROM are you running? I think most ROMs that are from the latest build have this issue resolved ... I am running Sapphire 1.1.1 and Pandora sounds great - plus there are extra setting built in that allow you to tweak the audio quality (DSP Manager).
Thanks for the reply. I'm running UD8 and it does have DSP Manager, but that doesn't fix the problem. UD8 is from the latest build. Are you listening to Pandora on a real stereo system or headphones? On headphones things sound fine, but on a real stereo (my car) the bass is missing and some highs are tinny on every other song or so. FRG22D didn't fix this (see earlier posts from MotoCache in this thread), but folks are doing things with StageFright to improve it. On Sapphire, can you look at build.prop and look at the http entry and see if it's true or false?

Ah, I see - strictly headphones here for me.

All the stagefright settings in sapphire are true, BTW.
Prior to this build, I did change the http to false and noticed a HUGE difference, but again, I only use headphones ...
That helps a lot though. My main concern was whether or not to attempt changing the build.prop or not with this latest build. I guess it's worth a shot, but I've read so much about what it breaks. Thanks for the replies.
 

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That helps a lot though. My main concern was whether or not to attempt changing the build.prop or not with this latest build. I guess it's worth a shot, but I've read so much about what it breaks. Thanks for the replies.

If I remember correctly, I think the first stagefright setting people changed to false was the "player". But, it screwed with the Quadrant scores which, for some reason, are a big deal to people. Then I saw the "http" solution come up later stating it doesn't mess with quadrant scores.
I tried both and they both worked for me. But, if you want to change it the easiest way is with root explorer - but that is a pay app.
 

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That helps a lot though. My main concern was whether or not to attempt changing the build.prop or not with this latest build. I guess it's worth a shot, but I've read so much about what it breaks. Thanks for the replies.

If I remember correctly, I think the first stagefright setting people changed to false was the "player". But, it screwed with the Quadrant scores which, for some reason, are a big deal to people. Then I saw the "http" solution come up later stating it doesn't mess with quadrant scores.
I tried both and they both worked for me. But, if you want to change it the easiest way is with root explorer - but that is a pay app.
Root Explorer it is, I've been looking at buying it to modify ring delay values and Dalvik Cache heap size in build.prop for a day or so now (I'll probably make one change at a time at first). Any advice on not hosing my build.prop (I already have a non-modified build.prop and a Nandroid backup ready)? Looks like I'm off to the market...
 

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That helps a lot though. My main concern was whether or not to attempt changing the build.prop or not with this latest build. I guess it's worth a shot, but I've read so much about what it breaks. Thanks for the replies.

If I remember correctly, I think the first stagefright setting people changed to false was the "player". But, it screwed with the Quadrant scores which, for some reason, are a big deal to people. Then I saw the "http" solution come up later stating it doesn't mess with quadrant scores.
I tried both and they both worked for me. But, if you want to change it the easiest way is with root explorer - but that is a pay app.
Root Explorer it is, I've been looking at buying it to modify ring delay values and Dalvik Cache heap size in build.prop for a day or so now (I'll probably make one change at a time at first). Any advice on not hosing my build.prop (I already have a non-modified build.prop and a Nandroid backup ready)? Looks like I'm off to the market...

Root Explorer makes a back up for you, so you should be set.
 

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If I remember correctly, I think the first stagefright setting people changed to false was the "player". But, it screwed with the Quadrant scores which, for some reason, are a big deal to people. Then I saw the "http" solution come up later stating it doesn't mess with quadrant scores.
I tried both and they both worked for me. But, if you want to change it the easiest way is with root explorer - but that is a pay app.
Root Explorer it is, I've been looking at buying it to modify ring delay values and Dalvik Cache heap size in build.prop for a day or so now (I'll probably make one change at a time at first). Any advice on not hosing my build.prop (I already have a non-modified build.prop and a Nandroid backup ready)? Looks like I'm off to the market...

Root Explorer makes a back up for you, so you should be set.
Just bought it and did it. Now the test in 20 minutes when I drive home. I'll report success or failure. Thanks again.
 

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Well, Slacker seems good when I tweak my DSP settings in UD8 ROM, but Pandora is inconsistent. Every other song sounds awful (Anyone know why it's only some songs?). If I tweak my DSP settings while listening to Pandora on a song that lacks bass, then the next song blows out my speakers. I think its a Pandora thing, as Slacker as least sounds consistent (not great, but very good with DSP settings tweaked). What is everyone else doing with streaming audio these days?
 

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I switched to using LastFM. The quality is much better, not noticing the sound problems that I experienced to Pandora. Works similar to Pandora and has allot of features that I now prefer.
 

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The problem is NOT 100% fixed in any current Froyo ROM. The patch that Google sent out helps a little. The main problem comes into play when you stream Audio from Pandora, Slacker, etc... over 3G. These companies downgrade the bit rate and use the AAC+ Codex when you are streaming over 3G. Even with the Stagefright patch, it will still not sound as good over 3G as it did with a 2.1 ROM. Some songs do sound better than others when on 3G. It has to do with how they were originally encoded.

I like ( or should I say Liked ) Pandora. It sounded great with the 2.1 ROM. When I upgrade to Froyo is sounded horrable. I learned about disabling stagefright and it sounded better, but never as good as it did with the 2.1 ROMs. I tried several ROMs that implimented the patch, but non of them truly solved the streaming issue over 3G. They all sounded fine when streaming over Wifi. I even put a 2.1 ROM back on the phone just to make sure I was not going crazy. Even with the latest ROMS ( I use the SS 4.8 ), they DO NOT sound as good over 3G as the 2.1 ROMs did.

I am convinced that Google altered some other audio settings/code related to streaming with Froyo other than the switch to stagefright. I think it might have something to do with the rumored Google TV/Radio/Music. As near as I can tell Google is NOT going to do anything else about the audio problems many people are still experiancing. Our only hope is that the streaming site will migrate away from the AAC+ codex and use mp3 across the board.....
 
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