Page 3 news, it says ice cream supposedly(not the official name yet), after honeycomb releases, and updates at six month intervals, maybe thats not 12 months exactly but since honeycomb hasnt been officialy released yet? I guess my point was there will be so many new launches before ice cream comes out you could say any phone running the current configuration will be outdated in six months. So a phone that will run the current software most efficiently is the one you want. As I said in another post the htc is proven bug free technology, The thunderbolt isnt. I remember when rim rushed the storm to market, I got one right away and it took rim almost a year to get that phone right. Moto has shown this impatience in the past also htc has not.