Thinking of going to iOS for the smoothness, am I crazy?

[robdam1001]

Apology accepted, let's move on.

OK, I deserved (some of) that. I didn't word that post properly (I actually like leeshore's take on it), and I'm sorry. Thankfully, I have the courage to admit it.

There are plenty of reasons why the iPhone still sells better than any other phone (iPhone 5s outsells the Galaxy S4 to top the charts in October - Reader comments). It's true the iPhone still does do most of what it does extremely well - one thing in particular is screen responsiveness.

That said, other phones and manufacturers are catching up in areas that iPhone has long dominated, among them screen quality, camera quality and most specifically fluidness. Motorola's X8 family of phones (to include Ultra, Mini, MAXX and X) are just one example, there are others...Samsung's Galaxy S4, LG G2. Sony Xperia Z, Nokia Lumina 1020, to name a few.

My original point to address the OP's question (before I fell off the track with comment of cult-like mentality - my bad), was that it's no longer that far off, and for most it's a non-issue. There are enough other very strong reasons to look away from the iPhone and towards the Android evolution of phones, otherwise Android wouldn't now hold the top position and by a ratio of over six to one.


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[robdam1001]

Exactly what kind of "content" cannot be shared on an Apple device?

I tend to agree that the iPhone 5 series provides the most fluid, responsive handsets currently available.

I credit Apple's fanatical control over and integration of hardware and software for this experience. But at a cost: I can, for instance, share content from my Android phone with others using a plethora of apps. Apple don't allow that. Total integration lessens flexibility and choice.

But the difference between these Apple products and the top Android devices re buttery smoothness is so subtle as to approach meaninglessness, at least for me.

I'm hard-core Galaxy Note and I can't see ever surrendering my S pen and screen real estate for the iPhone experience.

 

[jefbystereo]

Exactly what kind of "content" cannot be shared on an Apple device?

That actually is one of the things that really annoys me with iOS. You only have a preset list of quick share apps. For example if you take a picture, you can hit the share button and you have (messaging, facebook, flickr, email, and maybe 1 or two others) If you want to share through a different app, you have to first open it, then browse to your picture to share. On android when you hit share, you can choose from essentially any app you have installed, not just the preset 6 that iOS has.

edit: Its not that you cant share content, Novice said that you cant share using a plethora of apps like you can with android. More technically, its that you cant share quickly and easily using a plethora of apps. You still can, but you have to go into the app to do it.

 

[PereDroid]

No Jefbystereo, you are exactly right. The ecosystem cannot support a "folder system".
When I download an attachment from an email on my Android it goes into the FILESYSTEM in a little folder called "DOWNLOADS". Any app... ANY app that can open the file can access it in that location.
There is no DOWNLOAD area (i.e. true file system) on an i-anything. Every app lives in a walled garden. I can SEND a document to Pages but Pages has its own storage area. To get it out of there with my changes I HAVE to either SHARE IT to an email or use DropBox or something similar.

Setting up an iPad on my network to easily access our Network share took 2 days= and you still have to use a work around.
The Asus took an hour. and works as a business tool should.

 

[Domestic violence]

I've had many android devices, starting with the OG Droid. I also have a kindle fire, had a nexus7 and (still have) an ipad2. With the iPad, I really liked iOS and the speed, so I sold my Note2 and bought an iphone5. I lasted about 3 months with it and HAD to get rid of it. Plain and simple.... It sucked. Absolutely not as quick as my G2, fluidity is equal and the screen is just too small.

you will regret it.

 

[tgyberg]

^ All good stuff so far! As far as your Nexus 7 I'm running stock 4.4.2 with Elementalx kernel oc'd to 1.7. Man it is sooo smooth. Maybe give that combo a shot!

 

[robdam1001]

Jailbreaking your iOS device will solve this issue. Of course, there's not a JB for iOS7 as of yet. Part of the reason why I'm moving to Android and Galaxy S4. I currently have an iphone 5 running iOS 6 jailbroken.

No Jefbystereo, you are exactly right. The ecosystem cannot support a "folder system".
When I download an attachment from an email on my Android it goes into the FILESYSTEM in a little folder called "DOWNLOADS". Any app... ANY app that can open the file can access it in that location.
There is no DOWNLOAD area (i.e. true file system) on an i-anything. Every app lives in a walled garden. I can SEND a document to Pages but Pages has its own storage area. To get it out of there with my changes I HAVE to either SHARE IT to an email or use DropBox or something similar.

Setting up an iPad on my network to easily access our Network share took 2 days= and you still have to use a work around.
The Asus took an hour. and works as a business tool should.

 

[leeshor]

Here is an example of that walled garden/ Who here likes/uses Safari? While I'm sure some do, if you don't, and you get a WEB link in an E-Mail and click on the link, guess what, Safari or nothing. No choice.. If you want to see that link in another browser you'll need to cut and paste the link into the other browser. Options people, it's about options.

 

[NOVICE]

That actually is one of the things that really annoys me with iOS. You only have a preset list of quick share apps. For example if you take a picture, you can hit the share button and you have (messaging, facebook, flickr, email, and maybe 1 or two others) If you want to share through a different app, you have to first open it, then browse to your picture to share. On android when you hit share, you can choose from essentially any app you have installed, not just the preset 6 that iOS has.

edit: Its not that you cant share content, Novice said that you cant share using a plethora of apps like you can with android. More technically, its that you cant share quickly and easily using a plethora of apps. You still can, but you have to go into the app to do it.

That more correctly summarizes my original argument--as does another's reference to "walled garden".

IOS is more secure than Android but to perform a simple function you have to drill down through various layers to access the feature you need. Not so with Android. And there is no better example than pushing the share button and noting the Hugh difference in available options between the two systems.

Andy Ihnatko of the Chicago Sun Times has written extensively on this distinction.

But that walled garden and overall integration makes for about the most fluid UI you're going to get in a phone.

 

[leeshor]

There is a feature on Android that may be the single biggest reason for reduced security and is also one of the better features for many people. "Allow installations from unknown sources" opens your Android device up to potential security issues but who here has opened that option then never closed it. Back to options and choice again.

This one feature is a boon to people living outside the US, (in some countries where the Play Store is restricted), or on some devices, mostly tablets), that don't come with the Play Store. It may also be a reason why Android, outside the US, is so far ahead of iOS in sales.

 

[droidprincess]

I had the Galaxy S3 for a year and have recently pick up the Note 3....IMO my Note 3 is much better than my friends Iphone 5. I have not had any lagging issues out of my Note 3 nor did I have any out of my Galaxy S3. I would definitely stick to Android there are way more options.

 

[robdam1001]

On iOS? Completely not true! Use Browser Changer Tweak and you can configure it to launch any browser you desire. I use Atomic Browser and all links will default launch to it. [video=youtube;_C-p2AlP8XI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C-p2AlP8XI"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C-p2AlP8XI[/video]

Here is an example of that walled garden/ Who here likes/uses Safari? While I'm sure some do, if you don't, and you get a WEB link in an E-Mail and click on the link, guess what, Safari or nothing. No choice.. If you want to see that link in another browser you'll need to cut and paste the link into the other browser. Options people, it's about options.

 

[AECRADIO]

My biggest gripe about the iPhone, is its lack of durability.
I don't use a phone for internet, unless I leave my N7 in the van, but even my old D2 works quite well for my needs, it is boat anchor by today's standard, but it still WORKS, dropped more times than I wish to admit, and never had to open it up and repair it. A friend's iPhone dropped ONCE while at China-Mart, and it was junk, the screen was completely shattered, and it hit the floor facing up, it was as if the incident was filmed in slow motion. My DX also hit the floor at China-Mart, and survived, so WHY do so many iPhones suffer from this one issue?
As for IOS7 or the earlier iterations of same, I see no real benefit from lower lag times, it's just NOT that important. Screen size plays far more into the equation, and the iPhone has not altered its basic design since day-1.
What matters more, is an SD card slot, removable battery, simple software modifications to gain access to anything you wish to alter, as well as ROMS and permission levels.
Android is also NOT locked into a specific platform type, and not controlled, so users are free to download music from anywhere, save it to an SD card and PLAY it on your device, when I had my iPhone 4, I was unable to rip music from a CD or my SD cards and store it on the iPhone, Apple would not allow this, but in honesty, I may have been doing 'something' wrong, but I doubt it.
Crapple loves absolute control, which is WHY IOS is 'smoother' than Android, but NOT easier to alter or modify as Android is.
When your icons, screen scrolling is locked down, you lose the ability to make changes according to personal desires, but you do get the 'same' look and feel across the entire platform, and a lot of people love a standardized and regimented life, and the iPhone provides that regimentation, by now allowing you to make changes.
Apple also hates competition, which is why it designed its own charging/accessory port. No aftermarket chargers or cables, they have a 'digital cop' inside the cable that reports if your adaptor/charger/accessory is 'genuine' Apple, or as they put it....a fake, and prohibits use. Nothing is available in the aftermarket product showcase for this particular port cable. Another locked up product to force you to buy only from Apple, cutting off competition. Apples are not worth the money they demand, not for what you get in the box. Android would not sell as well if it locked up its platform as Apple does. If Android was unable to be modified, and the closed off the SDK/ADK software, and also stopped making it open source, I would go back to TracFone, or StraightTalk. But thankfully, Android IS open source, so fear not, things will only get better from now on.
The more hands adding to the offerings, Android can only get better, while Apple stagnates from lack of innovation and design, and let's face it, the iPhone design IS OLD!
You know the old saying; Polish a t**d, it's still a t**d.
Apple wants revenue from everything it offers, but the value you get from those offerings, is just not there, at least for me.
Let's take a quick glance at fast scrolling, shall we?
Apple STOPS scrolling immediately, and there are no ways to speed it up, nor will it scroll faster depending on how fast you flick your finger, it only goes so far and stops. Android scrolls as fast as you flick your finger, and the rate is determined by finger speed, the faster you flick, the faster Android scrolls, and does not act like a casino one-armed-bandit and stops, it slows down then stops, again, depending on finger speed.
My iPhone 4 was horrid, I had to constantly keep flicking to scroll to what I wanted to tap and open, even on my D2, this action makes the i4 a bicycle, and the D2, a dragster.
Scrolling is far more important than screen lag, I love to cover screen real estate, and the iPhone just doesn't cut it here.
Comparing Android to IOS is not fair, they are two entirely different animals. Open source has its benefits, as does closed source.
Mom and Dad love the regimented look and feel, the kids love the ability to change things on the fly, but mom and dad are happy with a standardized method of how things are done, and in the manner they are done, it's comforting to them. If you alter, change and modify your phone often, would you be satisfied with being locked to the desires of others, or would you prefer to go wild, and do what you want?
Android gives people what they want, by default. And if that offering is not what you want or prefer, you can change it to suit your needs, and do it again and again.
Which platform is easier to alter/modify on the go, Android or Apple....YOU decide!

 

[NOVICE]

I had the Galaxy S3 for a year and have recently pick up the Note 3....IMO my Note 3 is much better than my friends Iphone 5. I have not had any lagging issues out of my Note 3 nor did I have any out of my Galaxy S3. I would definitely stick to Android there are way more options.

I too have the Note 3 and my previous comments were not intended to suggest that there is anything sluggish about this device. It's a speed demon with massive power.

But the iPhone 5 series is smoother, more fluid, etc., in my opinion, because of the exquisite integration of hardware and software achieved by Apple. IOS, unlike Android, was engineered to run a limited line of phones and tablets. Android has been adapted by literally hundreds of devices.

The difference in response between the Note 3 and iPhone 5S, however, is so slight as to be almost undetectable. I'll stay with Android for a variety of reasons, most particularly the interconnectness of the apps which permits sharing of data between programs and a resulting ease of use.

 

[jefbystereo]

Well I just saw on Droid Life that Motorola is running another 150 off promotion on the off contract MotoX. I think Ill grab one, I looked at the returns policy and in California I have 30 days, so I can really compare it to my wifes phone.