Th3ory vs Liberty Smackdown

Discussion in 'Droid Bionic Roms' started by pharmnatr, Oct 29, 2011.

  1. pharmnatr
    Offline

    pharmnatr New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2010
    Messages:
    50
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    NYC
    Who has tried both roms and what are your thoughts on each?
  2. DroidTh3ory
    Offline

    DroidTh3ory New Member Developer

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2011
    Messages:
    539
    Likes Received:
    18
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Lol, its hard ti have a smackdown with two completely different type of ROM's. It comes down to what you want. If you like you some Blur, Mine has Blur, if you like you some AOSP, Liberty has it. Plus, from what I hear some custom things you can tweak.

    It's not a competition or a who's is better. Its... Be glad there are choices. :)



    Sent from my DROID BIONIC using Tapatalk
    4 people like this.
  3. jrshelton13
    Offline

    jrshelton13 New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2011
    Messages:
    37
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Where ever the Marine Corps sends me
    And thank goodness for those choices! We appreciate all of your guys hard work to bring us some new flavor to our phones!

    Sent from my DROID BIONIC using DroidForums
    1 person likes this.
  4. pharmnatr
    Offline

    pharmnatr New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2010
    Messages:
    50
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    NYC
    I appreciate the work all the developers do for us. Without you guys we couldnt endlessly "tinker under the hood".
    Since I just flashed th3ory 2.0 when Liberty became available I wanted to get some feedback from everyone as to their thoughts on both. Especially if they had run both roms.
    Actually I'm enjoying th3ory so much I'm hesitant to change although the urge is getting harder and harder to resist.
  5. BayouFlyFisher
    Offline

    BayouFlyFisher Rescue Squad Rescue Squad

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2009
    Messages:
    4,966
    Likes Received:
    17
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Location:
    Baton Rouge, LA
    Well i'll be "that guy" and say: Please everyone, put your money where your mouth/keyboard is and DONATE. Sorry to be a nag.

    Sent from my DROID BIONIC using Tapatalk
  6. kamisan
    Offline

    kamisan Member

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2010
    Messages:
    330
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Location:
    Texas
    Back in the D1 days (that ended two weeks ago) I started with Jrummy16 roms, kangerade, lithium,, always liked them, then he left (#$%^) :p and I went to miui, then sourcery, then project elite, then after retiring my OG I put liquid on it (wish I had tried it earlier) got my bionic and didn't mind the blur. Soooo Th3ory rom it was, and to smack down, all I can say is my bionic kicks the bat snot out of my wifes thuderbolt! with BAMF! And to BayouFlyFisher +1 Donate to the DEVS. Whatever rom you run!
    Me I'm with Th3ory, pretty loyal so probably staying here for a while. I would rather know it and the workarounds and help others than jump, jump jump... If jumping roms is your thing try them both. Speed wise not sure you will see alot of difference, the kernel is still locked and the .893 doesn't seem to have a performance change over the previous. (kernel wise that is) If on of the devs cracks that and gets some overclocking going (right now underclocking is all you can do) then a kernel stability speed smack down might be in order.. Jrummy did some great work in the past, odds are he still is, Th3ory is doing great work now that I enjoy! So no smackdown here.
  7. quizzard
    Offline

    quizzard New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2011
    Messages:
    118
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I never needed to root my D1, but I just installed theory ROM last night to get rid of the bloatware.seems pretty good, but would like some opinions on liberty also.
  8. pollardhimself
    Offline

    pollardhimself New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2010
    Messages:
    195
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    0

    Liberty also has the ability to add blur back in
  9. psychotic_penguin
    Offline

    psychotic_penguin Premium Member Premium Member

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2010
    Messages:
    410
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Rapid City, SD
    Amen to that....I've tried both and both are equally epic big ups to DT and Kejar31 for their awesomeness
  10. Nyteravyn
    Offline

    Nyteravyn New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2011
    Messages:
    810
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    MidWest
    plus one to that brother

    Sent from my DROID BIONIC using DroidForums
  11. wooddale
    Offline

    wooddale New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2010
    Messages:
    1,771
    Likes Received:
    11
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Il & Wi
    I also have a TB on BAMF FOREVER I dont no about knocking the snot out of BAMF my Tb runs slicker than snot i havent been on 2.0 yet but it sure would give Liberty s run for its money. ADRL does a hell of a job
  12. kamisan
    Offline

    kamisan Member

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2010
    Messages:
    330
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Location:
    Texas
    :p The thunderbolt with BAMF is a slick mean mofo- agreed, just saying my bionic with th3ory is well like the bionic man, (if your old eneough to remember, we will build him faster, stronger, better,,) LOL

    And yes the BAMF on the thunderbolt makes it FINALLY a decent phone. No crashes etc.. Still my bionic is better.. just because darnit! . ;-P****
  13. wooddale
    Offline

    wooddale New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2010
    Messages:
    1,771
    Likes Received:
    11
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Il & Wi
    I could be older than him lol.
  14. Husker_fan_
    Offline

    Husker_fan_ New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2011
    Messages:
    58
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Nebraska
    I'm pretty new to all of this stuff. The Bionic was my first smartphone, but since then I've jumped in with both feet. I've tried out both of the roms, and I think it comes down to personal preference. I like the Theory rom look and feel better for me. Any way I see it, they're both far better than what the phone came with so either choice you make is a win win. Hats off to both devs and thanks for giving us multiple choices!
  15. ultrastigi
    Offline

    ultrastigi New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2010
    Messages:
    476
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Philly
    When I had my TB I had ran th3ory's roms. It had great battery life and actually made the phone function. Just my 2 cents :)

    As for this "smackdown". They are different roms imo. I tried them both. I switch between the 2 often. If you want no blur it's liberty. If you want some or all blur it's th3ory. They are both great. Smooth and great on battery. It's all up to you. That's why we make backups right?
  16. wooddale
    Offline

    wooddale New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2010
    Messages:
    1,771
    Likes Received:
    11
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Il & Wi
    I havent ran th3ory yet cant decide which one to run now with all the choices. Im on Liberty now what I did notice and Im sure th3ory is gonna be the same the phone is a lot snappier than just stock rooted. My BAMFED TB still is wright there and no data problem. I gotta admit had it out last two days didnt drop sig one time but never left 4G area worked like a real phone.
  17. razvu
    Offline

    razvu New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2011
    Messages:
    11
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I tried them both, in fact I keep a few backups of each.
    I really liked Theory but then I switched to Liberty and tend to spend more time on it...I like the fact that there is more memory available, but you can get the same with Theory and no blur.
    There is one thing that bothers me, and it's not the roms, but the firmware. Apparently I am in an area where I don't really get 4G, but mostly 3G. They call it extended something...I spent countless reboots trying to figure out why there is no network signal. I also had a defective SIM card, but even after replacing it, I had the same issue. The key was setting the network to CDMA only. If I am in a good 4G area, I can switch it and it's blazing fast (485 KB/s steady upload rate to FTP!).
    Today I tried the latest Theory version 2.1 which supposedly has the new update. I don't know about other people but for me the Verizon update is a big BS. The signal gets lost all the time, no 3G where I know I have 3G, then after a while it changes to 1x, then again nothing and then finally it might catch some 4G. I got so frustrated I reverted my Liberty rom back, which is set on 3G only. I haven't tried 3G only on the latest Theory, however I didn't have issues before. Latest Theory version I ran for a while was 1.8. When I switched to Liberty I think I got better battery life. I have an extended battery, and I used Gtalk with video for about 1 hr and I was down to 75%. Setting was 3G only. I have to mention I didn't lose connection, while today on the latest Theory with the update, in the same area it gave me all those problems mentioned above.
    Running Liberty with 3G only, I use the browser, email, wifi, Gtalk, watch Netflix, sync is always on and I still haven't fully discharged the battery. I didn't use the phone continuously, but it was some pretty heavy usage.
    Comparing the deblurred version of Theory with Liberty, there are some extra settings in Liberty, however some of them I don't quite understand. You can enable them, but there is no clear explanation about what they actually do.. Theory also has some mods which are more clear: unthrottle, and the others from that script.
    Personally, I do not like the launcher that comes in both versions, so I installed GO Launcher and then removed the stock one and changed GO Launcher to a system app in Titanium. It seems to run fine, no errors. I also do not like the contacts app, there is no option to set a group when you add a contact, although I think there is a way to do it afterwards.
    Conclusion: the performance was pretty much the same, each rom has some tweaks and customization, you can make them both look however you want, so it's just a matter of personal preference which one you choose. They should both do the job. One thing, Theory gets more updates, while I haven't seen the same on Liberty. I hope this helps.
  18. DroidTh3ory
    Offline

    DroidTh3ory New Member Developer

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2011
    Messages:
    539
    Likes Received:
    18
    Trophy Points:
    0
    No matter which ROM... You are still using the same Radio. Simple as that.

    :)


    Sent from my DROID BIONIC using Tapatalk
  19. razvu
    Offline

    razvu New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2011
    Messages:
    11
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0

    So, the 893 update doesn't have any improvements for radio? That might explain the same issues. As I said, my complaints are strictly related to connectivity, which cannot be fixed unless a good firmware is released. I had the same problems with the Thunderbolt, I tried maybe 3 radio updates till I found one working properly...
  20. DroidTh3ory
    Offline

    DroidTh3ory New Member Developer

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2011
    Messages:
    539
    Likes Received:
    18
    Trophy Points:
    0
    The. .6.893 had a new LTE Radio, and the. 7.893 is a Webtop patch. Either way, since we can not flash radios... The ROM you are using will have NO effect on the signal or data. :)



    Sent from my DROID BIONIC using Tapatalk