Sync with Outlook?

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  1. bearlaw1968

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    Verified - Droid DOES NOT SYNC with standalone Outlook out of the box

    My frustrations with the Droid not being able to sync important data made me lose a lot of sleep last night. Sometimes I think that if I should design software myself, but I haven't done programming in many years. Even the "second tier" Verizon techs told me that I should download and install "Google Calendar Sync" like I'm some sort of moron. It says right in the name that it is a calendar synch, not a contact sync. So even though I repeatedly told him that had nothing to do with contacts, I indulged him and wasted my time, thinking maybe it would be smart enough to detect my attached Droid and suddenly work as he was so confident. I have had my own domain email addresses for over a dozen years and I am going to use them until I die. I'm not going to stop using them to surrender to Gmail or any other kind of third party email account, but I do have a linked Gmail account which forwards to my real email addresses. So the tech advised me after admitting that I was right that I could import a CSV file of my contacts, which is exactly what I had done a few days ago, but it's not something I'm going to do every day as I constantly update my contacts. I had to pound into him that I knew how to import, but IMPORT IS NOT SYNC, so this an entirely inadequate solution. Any suggestions? I'll post separately about Companionlink.
     
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    Companionlink

    So because there is no out of the box Standalone Outlook contact, notes or task sync, I went with someone's suggestion to at least try the third-party software. I downloaded the trial version of CompainionLink for Google since the two others that were recommended do not seem to be available yet. The contacts seem to sync okay, but the second I lose signal, none of my contacts are available on my phone? This means if I'm not getting a signal to the web/my Google account, there are no numbers or names or identifiers on my text messages even as to who these people are and I can't even compose offline texts or emails? That seems crazy with all of the space on the device. If my contacts must be in the Google cloud, why can't they be on my Android cloud!? Am I missing something? While there is supposedly a rudimentary tasks feature for Google online, it is not supported on the Droid apparently. With the Companionlink, instead of having a "real" tasks" and notes sync, the "tasks" are stuck somewhere in the calendar and the notes are created as CONTACTS!? That's crazy! While the onus is on the Droid software and not the Companionlink software, why can't I have a software (iphone can't do this either) that shows me a notes icon on my phone and a tasks icon on my phone that is a true sync? Even if I only have a few dozen tasks and notes, I don't see what the big deal is. I don't want to have to go fishing through my CONTACTS to find notes which are filed under some arbitrary contact name. I also don't want to fish through my calendar to find tasks that may or may not have reminders. Tasks are on a list. I know I'm still new to the Droid but I also was shocked that I could not browse the contents of my device, nor was it even recognized when I plugged it into my Windows 7 computer. What's the point of having 16G of memory of if I can't drag and drop media there? Everything has to be sent over the internet to myself when I'm sitting at my own desk at home? That's absurd.
     
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    Ok this thread is running out of legs quickly. I hear both sides, but the opinions and facts aren't changing here.
     
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    You must have misunderstood what I was trying to state all along. I didn't mean that Google didn't have the CAPABILITY to do it, just WHY should they support a competitor? I know they CAN do it, WHY would they? Yes, they don't want to and I know why. I don't understand how you can't grasp the concept that Google does not want to help sell more copies of Microsoft Outlook.


    Again, I know they CAN develop an app to support it. WHY would they when they have a competing client called Gmail? They would be hurting their own application by promoting their competitor. Have you ever had an economics class... because you seem to not understand how this stuff works. :r_c:

    You need this capability because you own Outlook? Then go buy a WinMo phone or the 3rd party app. Or do it the FREE way with Google - sync your Outlook email, contacts, calendar, etc with Gmail and use Gmail on the Droid. That is what I did for my personal email, contacts, and calendar from Outlook.

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    fair enough. if you're referring to outlook on an enterprise server like exchange, it does do this, albeit not very well at all. i agree with it being a poor implementation. main reason why i'm using the 3rd party app touchdown for exchange.


    wow! a D? really?? this browser is second only to the safari browser and even then only by a very small margin. OVERALL the browser is very well implemented for 95% of what people use a smartphone browser for. you know, browsing the internet and pulling up web pages. i couldn't knock it down to a D just because it doesn't stream wm. but hey, you're entitled to your opinion.


    agreed. however, keeping in mind this is a camera on a phone it does it's job pretty well.

    can't really argue with this too much, although i would give it a c+ or b-. again, keeping in mind the phone was just released with a new os that many apps have yet to be designed or optimized for. i expect this will get better and we should see some good apps by end of year and beyond.

    just because you're using AOL you get an F(ail)- :p

    seriously, AOL is the worst of the worst. i wouldn't wish AOL on my most despised enemy.

    that said you do have a point with false 'new mail' notifications. i got these at first with my comcast email, but for some reason it's stopped happening now. hopefully it stays that way.

    agreed. but i knew this was going to be a limitation even before i bought the droid. this was a battle i knew i would have to fight, did not catch me by surprise like it seemingly did you. maybe a little more research and less assuming on your end next time. ;)

    this is one area where i think they need to improve. overall media handling is lacking imo. it does what it needs to do, but with very little sophistication. i kind of feel that my blackberry's had a more sophisticated way of handling media even with their simple interface. the droid has no swiping left to right to change pictures, no stop button on the media player, and the interface is way too spartan. there's a lot of room for 3rd party developers to turn a good profit providing a good media suite for the droid.

    the sensors do what they're supposed to. how are you holding the device such that your finger goes over the sensor? it's not in a place that would normally get any action at all.

    agreed. out of the box corporate email/pim support is not that very good imo. but again, this was not what the phone was designed to do. that's blackberry's market. the driod's primary competitor (iphone) doesn't do this either. fortunately (or annoyingly) 3rd party apps rue the day for business users who want better email/pim support on the droid.

    all of your other points i agree with for the most part. :icon_ banana:
     
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    Alan,

    No need to try to insult me, In fact my oppinon is based on fact. I'm part of a business plan Alan, and that business plan DOES NOT CHARGE A SNGLE RED CENT EXTRA for Wireless Snyc. I can give you our reps number and you can call him yourself if have your doubts.

    Thanks,

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    This is good clerification for Exchange then, thanks. I'm not sure how it does a compare, maybe date and time based...

    All other solution I have checked or used out have a 3rd copy somewhere, to compare the others too.

    Thanks,

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    Bzb,

    wow! a D? really?? this browser is second only to the safari browser and even then only by a very small margin. OVERALL the browser is very well implemented for 95% of what people use a smartphone browser for. you know, browsing the internet and pulling up web pages. i couldn't knock it down to a D just because it doesn't stream wm. but hey, you're entitled to your opinion.

    I gave the browser itself an A, but I give BROWSER COMPATIBILITY a D. Its my oppinon that all browsers should support mostly what the normal ones do, and that is FLASH, Windows Mobile streams, etc, etc.


    the sensors do what they're supposed to. how are you holding the device such that your finger goes over the sensor? it's not in a place that would normally get any action at all.

    There is a sensor around the camera lense, and when I hold the device in landscape mode, my finger cover it. It make the screen fade in and out.


    fair enough. if you're referring to outlook on an enterprise server like exchange, it does do this, albeit not very well at all. i agree with it being a poor implementation. main reason why i'm using the 3rd party app touchdown for exchange.

    Touchdown I believe only does Calendar and contacts, its not complete yet.

    agreed. but i knew this was going to be a limitation even before i bought the droid. this was a battle i knew i would have to fight, did not catch me by surprise like it seemingly did you. maybe a little more research and less assuming on your end next time. ;)

    Catch me by suprise, yes. Verizon reps told me "Yes it will sync your outlook data". He meant only if I have Exchange server, and only Calendars and contacts, but he left those important bits out.

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    Does anyone here have anything new to say? I have been reading for 5 pages and it's all the same argument. Maybe just agree to disagree and i'll close this one up. Let me know here. I am starting to think this ship has sailed though :)
     
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    Ok this thread is running out of legs quickly. I hear both sides, but the opinions and facts aren't changing here.
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    Your not the only one here. I feel ya but you have to admit this one is getting nowhere fast. I feel yourpain. I don't agree with you, but I can see where you are at.
     
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    The thread should be closed, no point to keep arguing about it.

    Someone should start a new thread that discusses the 3rd party tools available to sync stand-alone Outlook with the Droid - once they are released and work 2 ways.
     
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