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Super speed without rooting

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    Super speed without rooting (proper use of task killers)

    if you're a task killer hater or will be offended by thoughts that go against your principles...

    STOP READING NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!

    These ideas are for mature individuals who are comfortable having intellectual discussions and mature disagreements.

    My intent is not to offend anyone who has a rooted phone.

    My intent is to provide non-rooters with an alternative to achieve more speed.



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    I went to the vzw store to get my wife's phone fixed and the tech took my stock phone and installed 2 task killers.

    1. Auto task killer- he disabled all of the apps on ATK1 that she uses often (email, messaging, important widgets, LAUNCHER PRO, etc...)

    2. Advanced task killer- those above apps still need the ability to be killed so the automatically enter ATK2



    Now my phone is blazing fast without rooting.
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    People have mixed opinions of task killers. Whatever works for you, keeping in mind that messing with the OS's thread handling usually isnt a great idea.
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    Cool deal now u can root, oc and make it 2 times faster ;p

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    just a warning your probably gonna get alot of negative comments on this thread cause the fact that you dot need a task killer on the phone cause the os itself is more proficient on its own with out a task killer but if your happy with it then use it but it may cause your phone to slow down after a while especially with the auto task killer app

    i personally like the task killers i use advanced task manager
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    I'll be the first. Took my task killer off a few weeks ago. Have experienced no, none, zero, zilch, nada speed problems. The droid works fast and efficiently with no obvious loss of battery time. Ditch the task killers. My 2c
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    I was like you until today.
    i took off the task killer and my phone was fine.
    the problem only arose after i did all that work to switch my wife from her bb tour and her ally was acting crazy.
    I paid list price for this phone cause it's not our upgrade time and after two days her phone was a joke.

    we were ready to throw it away and get her an incredible even though she loved the phone thursday because of the keyboard and android os.


    I would have stayed a true believer in no-atk land if SHE didn't have that experience with her ally at list price- not cheap
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    Don't know what you consider super fast... but i have to ask you... have you ever rooted??... and OC'ed??
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    For as many reasons as there are to root there are reasons to not.

    I have never done it because i am not a 'risk taker'. at all.
    That's my reason.

    I wish it was in my nature but it's not and every reason i hear in the root affirmative ends with the risk disclaimer about "if you ever have to return your phone..."
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    But rooting is so fun! :p

    I'm glad that it works well for you, certainly there are many different ways to be happy with a droid, it is an amazing device regardless of what you do with it.

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    So 'super fast' is only relative to what you've experienced... and that's all good Bro, but til you've OC'ed, preferrably rooted and OC'ing, then you really have no comparitive basis to know what super fast could actually be...
    as for the 'if you ever have to return your phone' .... simply unroot back to stock...:)
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    I don't believe the op was claiming any comparisons with rooted droids... simply stating his non rooted phone is faster than before. Amirite?

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    ...also....wait for 2.2....that should really wake your phone up
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    No... he was more claiming that the task killers were the difference makers... but I was merely pointing out that what he might consider 'super fast' without rooting he really doesn't have the comparitive basis to know for sure.
    If he stated that his Droid got faster after having the task killers installed, then that's another story, but he clearly stated that his Droid was 'Super Fast' without rooting.... how would he know for certain what Super Fast really is??... that's my point...lmao:icon_eek:
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    Why does he need a comparitive basis? If he says its flying for a stock droid, power to him... he even sez he doesn't wanna root

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    im rooted and over clocked to 1k and my phone still needs a task killing every now and then or everything lags... and heats up.


    the biggest thing is the browser, if you use it alot like i do, muilt tabs open refreshing and switching between them, after a little while everything slows down and lags, closing every tab and its still lagging the phone, checking processes with astro will show over 50meg being used by the broswer with everything close. so a good task killing restores my phone to non laggy as hell. the over clock does kill the lag a bit, but the temp goes up fast, so oc is not the answer.


    ive never seen any issues killing tasks. what issues are you guys seeing or worried about?
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    I AM MAKING A COMPARISON- only internal though


    I am making a comparison. but only between my phone NOW and AT BREAKFAST.
    not to a root and unroot.
    so...

    My claim of speed is valid in it's internal comparison.

    I'm only claiming that my vzw rep/tecnician showed me how to effectively and efficiently use several tools that increased my phones speed.


    you make the same comparison when you root, oc or both.
    you compare your phones performance after the action to before.
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    Not everyone wants to root. This is a good thing for the nonrooted crowd. Try it ojut for a week if it is smooth with no glitch or f/c then that will be a good solution for nonrooted droids to gain speed.
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    Well I will say this much for task killers:
    Bugless Beast V 1.1 is the most stable ROM I have ever used. Using it in combination with launcher pro results in a user experience comparable to the iPad. Zero choppiness except for the first 10 seconds following a reboot. Everything is extremely smooth, and I have had no FC's and only one false freeze. (Meaning a FC popped up but after a few seconds the lockup cleared out). Pete has programmed a script into his rom that automatically kills tasks to keep at least 50 mb of RAM free at any given time. Speaking frankly, it just works. I purchased the premium version of ATK when I bought my Droid in December, but I haven't used it since February, and I never feel the need to.

    Say what you will about the smart memory management of Android, but the fact is that the phone simply runs more smoothly than it ever has before with Pete's script and the smart programming of launcher pro.

    Using the phone stock after experiencing this wonderful combination of BB and launcher pro is actually painful. There is a LOT more lag and a LOT more choppiness. I am overclocked, but only to 800 mhz. If one were to try to convince an iPhone user that Android really is the future, THIS is the combination of software that one should use. You get all of the smoothness and stability of the Apple solution with the customization and flexibility of the Android platform.

    Recently I had become green with envy towards my sister, who became the proud new owner of an Incredible, but since I moved to launcher pro and BB 1.0/1.1 (they are comparable in performance) I have an end user experience almost identical to hers, even with the processor running at a lower clock speed (I get better battery life than her to boot!). I had been considering ditching the Droid on ebay for either an Incredible or a Shadow, but now I know that with the help of all of these brilliant developers, I can keep my phone running as smoothly as the newest devices on the market for free!
    To the OP:
    Yes, my solution requires rooting, but if you know basic computing skills (IE, making backups) then it is very hard to screw up, and you can always undo it for warranty service. The touchscreen on my original device recently went on the fritz. It was selecting things and calling people even when my fingers were not touching the screen. I simply followed the directions available on this website for unrooting my device, and then I went to the store and had them overnight me a "good as new replacement". It actually performs better than my original phone, and I have had no problems with VZW in regards to my rooting the original device, which was replaced. I love this phone more now than I have ever before, and the difference really is that palpable. This phone received numerous positive reviews from the tech blogs/websites when it was first released. If these websites were to review my optimized phone with all of the root-only enhancements, it would compare favorably with the newest generation of smartphones based on the snapdragon platform.

    My only wishes at this point are that the speed of the camera is improved, and that Moto had copied the design of the keyboard of my old LG EnV. It was freaking awesome, and the Droid's current keyboard is only adequate.
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    If all he said was the above, then no problem, but he's talking 'super fast' when he has no idea what 'super fast' is exactly... he should have simply stated that his Droid is now much faster than it was after VZW techs loaded the Task Killers... that's all I'm saying... and I am entitled to voice that opinion am I not?


    Exactly!!... that's all I'm trying to poiunt out, that is what you should have titled your thread... JMHO Bro... and no worries as I didn't mean any ill will with what I've posted... if I offended you, it was not my intent.

    :) cheers
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    So the OP has TWO task killers installed on the phone? Sorry, but is that because one doesn't kill a task dead enough? Is there a task that's still squirming?

    Sorry, but the addition of a task killer frequently appears to make a difference in a phone's performance for a couple of reasons: (a) the placebo effect and (b) the effect of turning the phone off and on again.

    After awhile, however, the phone appears to revert to its earlier behavior, or worse. This is frequently because a task killer can leave garbage data and cache lying around when a task is ended without the opportunity to clean up after itself.
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