Sunday Evening Chat: Happy Mother's Day

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  1. pc747

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    Happy Mother's Day. Hopefully you have not wait until now to call and talk to your mother but today is definitely the day to call. For me my parents have been a staple in my life. Whether with the belt or with love the training I had as a child is what prepared me to deal with the world. So thank you Mom for being there for me. What are the memories about your mother that sticks out for you the most?

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    Are leaks really leaks? Before a device get released to the public, months before we get "leaked" fuzzy photos to full blown previews. The typical response from the manufacturer is normally a statement of "disapproval". As a result we find ourselves (me in particular) getting angry that an individual is violating ndas (non-disclosure agreements) for 5 mins of fame. 5 mins because the moment the phone is released everybody seems to post a review to the point the person who posted first becomes irrelevant. Then 2-3 weeks after the device has been made available for purchase it is on to the next one. Though there are some people who foolishly violate the ndas it is also apparent that some of these leaks are a result of the manufacturer. If a manufacturer really wanted to control a leak they could do so.
    Back when the galaxy nexus was at its pre-release phase there was so much fanfare built up based on talks via social media that google and manufacturers did not have to spend a lot of money on advertising because people were willingly doing the task for them for free. I believe manufacturers took note of this and as a result allow (correction) control the leaks to where they are putting out information in the form of pictures to build up hype and talk about their device so at the time of release they have already not only build the hype but have made their product the topic of discussion which helps with advertising. The point of advertising is getting the word out and if the word is already out advertisers can focus their attention in weaker markets. So for me I no longer see a leak as a leak like someone is "risking" something to give us a peak, instead I see a leak as the manufacturers way of building up hype for their upcoming device(s). What do you think about leaks?
     
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    Well that was an odd change of subject xD
     
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    LOL! Great post, but I thought the same thing. :D :D

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    well every sunday evening chat i try to talk about something involving android. Given the day being mother's day wanted to make the first part of the discussion being about mothers. The second part was my android related story.
     
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    I like the concept! :thumbup:
    My 2 cents on leakage....
    Its love/hate relationship. On a whole, I would say I enjoy leaks because it gives us something to look forward to and gets people talking. Without leaks, the online community would be a lot less active. I also think it help to fuel competition between manufacturers. As long as vital information and/or trade secrets aren't leaked (which rarely if ever happens) I don't think any harm is being done.
    While I'm not a big fan of Apple, I do think they make decent products. I usually look forward to the latest iPhone release each year, if only to see what they come up with.
    TBH though, I'm often frustrated because "true" leaks are few and far between with Apple, so there's rarely anything to "look forward to".


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    I've thought leaks were intentional ever since somebody "accidentally" left an iPhone prototype in a bar. Really. An employee at the most tightly-controlled company in the galaxy left a PROTOTYPE in a public place. A prototype. Even in a less secretive company, prototypes do not leave the premises without permission.
    So yes, leaks are free advertising.
     
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    There are so many 3rd party vendors involved making leaks inevitable. You know someone at some company will be paid enough to tell what they know.
     
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    Good point. But I am thinking third party vendors are not involved until right before release. At that point we already seen pictures and screenshots. Third party vendors get non working dummy models. So the people who have the working models I would think would be engineers, design, and marketing teams. So leaks would have to be from within. And let's say you had a person who was greasy enough to leak a product for a few bones. OK the company would implement a system that allows them to identify where that leak came from and then make such an example of that person that the people viewing the leak photos online would be afraid they were next. So for leaks to continue to happen phone after phone is no coincidence as we all have stated in our own way. Companies understand the game that customers have one upgrade every two years. If your product is not ready the only way I can keep person a from burning an upgrade on a competition's product is to allow juicy enough information (even phantom information over hyping) about my product that will make that person hesitate long enough to allow thei product to get released to market. And then hope their product and marketing is enough to influence the customer to choose their product over the competition.
    Apple has such a fan base that they know people are going to wait to see the next iPhone without having to resort to leaks. Samsung is getting there but all other companies do not have that influence yet.

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