So long gingerbread

Discussion in 'Android Roms' started by otter34, Apr 14, 2011.

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    Sent from my Droid using TapatalkOh god I'm doomed to only accept the best in the way of roms now. Its just like music I guess... once you here the good stuff you can't turn back lmao

    And jimmy, I've used ss 5.2 since 2 days after it came out. Its the nicest GB rom out, but it still sucks. Grab a friends phone or flash yours to froyo for a day or two. Its much more stable. Sure, having the latest and greatest is fun, but for a lot of us being a phone comes first, and tweaking second. SS 5.2 would reboot during phone calls and such sometimes. It just wasn't for me.

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    Sorry but if someone's OG Droid just absolutely can't have Gingerbread on it, then its something YOU are doing that's the problem. Regardless if it was meant for the OG or not, it works and it works with far better results than froyo. I've built a 2.3 ROM that worked flawlessly on the HTC Droid Eris of all phones, I know that GB can be stable on the OG. If it can work on the Eris, it can definitely work on the OG. My OG has been running CM7 has not had an issue that wasn't easily fixed, as a matter of fact it only had 1 issue which was fixed just by reflashing. Someone saying that GB sucks and no one should ever use it, is just stating their opinion, NOT a fact. It works fine for me and tons of other people, so obviously its not the ROM that's an issue. Could also be the device, could even be the operator.

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    It was just a matter of time before someone would come to start this argument... not into headbanging budz.. just voicing personal experiences here..

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    SS 5.2 is what pulled me back in and I'm loving it so far! Let's see if I notice any issues or not after a few days. I'm keeping my fingers crossed
     
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    That's really interesting. I knew kernels respond differently, but I didn't know ROM's could react differently also. Thanks for educating me UNC and thanks to a couple others for convincing me to not throw in the towel. SS 5.2 was my last shot and so far it's running great. Of course now w/ this info from UNC if I have problems w/ it and I"m still hell-bent on GB I guess I'll have to try something else!

    UNC, have you always had problems w/ Pete's roms or just this one?
     
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    Wow, I'm not sure I ever gave that one a shot. I guess I'll have to put it on the list if SS has any problems w/ my phone. Thanks guys!
     
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    IMO I think even launchers and certain apps will react differently as well. I was where you are few weeks ago, getting frustrated with GB and also went back to froyo. Well that didn't last as I came right back to GB. Like you I've tried most all the GB roms and kernel combos. What I ended up (so far) is with ss 5.2 themed with chevy's 1ghz kernel. It works well for my droid and the launcher and apps that are most important to me. You need to find what they are and experiment til you find the ones that work the best for you. There are people here that tell you this is best and that is best but in the end you need to ask yourself what features and what level of performance is most important. As for me I'm sticking with this setup for now but I highly doubt that I will be going back to froyo. GL
     
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    The old Eclair versions of BB ran perfect for me, but from Froyo on BB has had problems.
    I've had good fortune with CM, SS, and PE on GB. I know that doesn't mean much though, because I installed all of them on my brothers Droid with less luck... But for him Petes AOSP GB Rom ran PERFECT! My droid is a launch device and hr got his about 6 months later, so maybe its due to hardware revisions???
     
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    I have to highly disagree with this statement. In fact, I hold an opinion to be quite the opposite. Ive tried every GB rom there is...and all of them have given me loss of 3g data (and thousands of others as well), I wont go so far as to say that those who say they are not experiencing this are not being honest or fans of GB regardless of issues....but I will say that it happens on MY droid and my girls droid on EVERY gb rom Ive ran (and themed).

    As well as other random weird things happening (losing emails, not recieving texts...recieving a text that was sent by a friend 3 months ago...and it shows up again in my inbox). Ive had reboots out of nowhere on almost all of them (usually when mutlitasking and streaming pandora). My phone gets EXTREMELY laggy and unresponsive at times due to memory management when using apps that consume a large amount of RAM. Change VM heaps dont work either.

    So...Im not quite sure if those that are "avid supporters" of GB are being 100 percent honest when they say they have ZERO issues. Or have just accepted some minor issues just to keep gb.

    And I could not disagree more with the statement that "people having issues with GB is because of something the user is doing". It most certainly is the rom...if a large percentage of people who flash GB roms experience the same issues, which did not persist on Froyo roms. Me personally always start having issues on GB after a while. I always flash new releases, but keep my trusty, thoroughly working UD 2.5 handy incase I wish to listen to music thats on my SD card, retain my 3g data after phone calls, recieve all my texts, and stream pandora while doing other things on my phone. When I finally desire to have all those things working like they should....I go back to froyo.
     
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    I've literally had zero issues with SS 5.2. Best my droids ever run
     
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    Spot on yakitori. I simply don't understand why our forum can accept that different kernals and speeds react differently with our phones, but the minute someone says a rom doesn't work with theirs we get in a hissy fit. Um.... if some phones can barely run at 700 and others can go to 1.5, what makes you think that some roms just can't like some phones? For YOUR phone, GB may be perfect. It may not have a single bug. But for mine? GB doesn't roll with it. It'll reboot multiple times a day, no matter what I did.

    And cause I'm human and spc challenged me I have too... Don't even try to tell me that I'm doing something wrong buddy. I've as pro as you can get without knowing how to code. I've fixed multiple "bricked" phones for my friends. I've been modding for almost 3 years. I've been at this forum for a year longer than you. For all practical purposes, I could of been your tutor a year back. So don't even try to tell me I'm doing something wrong ;)

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    The ONLY issue I had with SS is 3g loss after calls, and poor memory management when streaming pandora...resulting in frozen phone sliders...and a continual ring which I could not answer. Then a cascade of FC on pandora and anything else that was open. It was minimal at first but continued...forcing me to get irritated enough to go back to froyo.

    So are you saying you are able to listen to ALL the music you have on your SD card?
     
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    I haven't had any issues either. Maybe it's because I'm a minimalist? I don't use themes, or custom icons, or anything like that really. I don't know if that has anything to do with it or not. I only have Beautiful Widget's "Beautiful Home Weather" on my home screen in addition to shortcuts.

    I have changed my font, and boot animation though... but that's it. I use SetCPU profiles to under/overclock, and I use ADW EX as my launcher.

    It is peculiar that some people have issues with GB, and others don't. I don't know if it's my minimalist setup, or that my particular handset reacts better to it. All I can do is shrug my shoulders, and enjoy the fact that my handset in particular gets along famously with SS 5.2. I have no idea why, but I like it :-D

    My overall opinion is, run with what works best for you. You, the end user should be happy with your device. Thank goodness there are such a plethora of ROMs and kernels out there for us all to play with.

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    ss5.2 is my favorite gb rom by far. UD is not bad either. I actually noticed with UD 3.3 that even though I lose 3g after hanging up on a phone call...it comes back on its own like some kind of script toggles plane mode for me. Its a pause with no data and then it comes back after a bit.

    None of the themes work in UD extras though. At least not for me.

    I agree that it likely varies handset to handset. My phone and my girls phone experience probs...so its not a permanent rom for me with the minor nuisances I run into.

    Custom icons or stock...same issues arise for both me and my girls phone. I mean no disrespect at all to any devs...they are all great.
     
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    Ok, here it goes. Look I understand you're just sooooo much better than I am (rolls eyes). Read my entire post before you start trying to brag about how good are you are. Make it a point to read the LAST LINE of my post where I say "Could be the device" I'm sure you are just way too awesome to see that though. I'm glad you've had all the time in the world to be modding and on these forums as long as you have. I've been too busy serving my country for you to have the freedom to act like a pompous ass without reading my whole post. Go back and check it and see where I said, "Could be the device," trust me it's there.

    I completely agree 100% that all Kernels, ROMs and devices are different which is why at the end of my post I said "Could be the device, could be the operator." My point was that probably 70% of the time, it is user error. They didn't wipe data before flashing, they didn't wipe cache before flashing, they didn't make a nand backup before flashing and they flashed wrong and are now bricked. Maybe they didn't check the MD5 to make sure there are no errors with the file. The fact that you've been doing this longer than I have means nothing. I've created a 2.3.2 ROM for the HTC Droid Eris, a device that never even got 2.2 and I did it from scratch! I built my own vendor tree for that ROM and am very proud of it. How long I've been doing this is irrelevant, it's skill, not time. Someone else could have been doing this since the very first smartphone and still suck. I learn very very fast, I made a 2.2 ROM for the Eris in about 2 hours, and 2 weeks later I came out with a 2.3.2 ROM for the same phone and I've only been modding Droid phones for about 6 months. So yeah, ummmm.....thanks.
     
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