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Discussion in 'Android Hacks and Help' started by garrett, Nov 1, 2009.
i guess you have a point.... i just like simple and clean..
I can't wait to get it rooted. Fans of linux should understand why this is important. It's going to be pretty close to a palm sized desktop computer for me.
It shouldn't take terribly long at all to get this bad boy rooted.
New devices are rooted all the time so just need a talented developer to come over and work their magic.
The sprint hero has been rooted
CDMA Hero Root status? - Page 21 - xda-developers
Its just a matter of time now. I believe the kernal versions are the same, so the hack should work for the Droid as well. I am not willing to test it on my device yet, soe hopefully someone else is willing.
Well this phone has different hardware. I thought it was because of the new chip that developers had to be aware of and they need to find an exploit through it. Or maybe I'm just speaking out of my ass. Lol. :wacko:
Edit: nevermind. I see you're referring to the Eris and not the Moto Droid. My bad.
Once you have had a rooted Android phone, trust me, you won't want any other type of phone, and certainly not an un-rooted phone. So many advantages ...
I have had a rooted G1 for almost a year now (and have had multi-touch the whole time, though to me it's not really a big deal compared to the OEM system, which I also still have). I'm very impressed with the droid so far, and am really thinking about busting my T-Mobile contract to buy the droid, but will have to be able to root it, or it's a no go for me.
All of that has yet to be seen. Once a few good devs get in the mood to root it, it shouldn't be long.
As I write on my blog, the Droid presents a new challenge to rooting, because it uses completely different hardware (TI OMAP) than all previous Android phones (Qualcomm MSM7K) to date. This might present some opportunities though, as the OMAP is claimed to be "unbrickable" having several boot options including NAND FLASH, SD Card, and Serial UART. If it were possible to somehow change the phone from booting to NAND and instead have it boot from SD card, it might be possible to run U-Boot on it.
There are a few ways that can be considered in rooting the Droid:
1. Modify FLASH via the Bootloader - Probably the best, since it would be difficult to close this hole through updates. For this, you need access to the bootloader, see: MagicAndroidApps Android Blog
2. Find a security hole in the Linux kernel itself. This would be something like the Linux 2.x kernel sock_sendpage() local root exploit. This has been closed in recent Android Linux kernels. We would likely need the Droid Linux Kernel source for this, but at least /proc/kallsyms is present on the Droid, which at least allows us to know common entry points into the Kernel. For Droid, it seems /proc/ was stripped down to not even include the kernel configuration file: config.gz.
3. Find a configuration / permission mistake in the Android distribution. This would be unlikely, but at least in Android 1.0, this was what was used to initially gain root. Ie, the console was attached to the keyboard, allowig someone to type commands as root.
4. Through the update process.
Both (2) and (3) can be explored using the Android Debug Bridge (ADB) on your PC, or locally on the phone with a Terminal Emulator such as my app "Better Terminal Emulator Pro" which works well on Droid. http://magicandroidapps.com/wiki/
how does one become a Super Moderator on a Droid forum and not know what root is?
not being a pr_ck, just wondering.
Cyanogen is the probably the best ROM builder there is. the reason i say probably is due to the fact that other ROM builder may take exception to that statement.
i don't believe that Cyanogen had anything to do with rooting - that was done by someone else - Cyanogen just optimizes his builds with the latest an greatest technology that is available and tweaks the OS to run as fast as possible with a 528mhz processor. that could all be wrong...but i have been a CyanogenMod follower since it's inception.
finally someone that understands the benefits of root - while i'm @ work, on on my companies wifi - i can do anything that my desktop computer can do, but slower. still, it's worth it.
open mapped drives, RDP into my desktop machine, open web apps, VPN into my companies network (for on-call duties)...possibilities are endless, and in my opinion this is the direction the Android platform needs to go.
Exactly! I'm looking forward to seeing what I can do with it! SSH has been at the top my list of things I wanted most on a new phone and ConnectBot is pretty slick. I'd love to try get mplayer or vlc working. I've seen someone has a working version of ruby on rails ported to android, so I'd like to play around with that and the Metasploit Framework. And I go on and on... haha it sucks I can't play around with any of this till I've got root access.
I wonder if there's any linux targeted exploits in metasploit that you could use against the android OS. Don't know if anyones tried that yet.