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Discussion in 'Droid RAZR MAXX' started by blackhawk1134, Mar 3, 2013.

  1. mokes

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    Not sure I understand this secret tester stuff. JB isn't new, nor a secret, plus KLP is coming soon.

    Am I missing something? Seems kind of stupid tbh.
     
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    It's a "per device" thing, not Android itself.
     
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    Seems kind of culty on the Moto site. I mean.....didn't we BUY these, lol??
     
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    not that black and white

    I did get the Christmas update on Christmas. I have had no probs at all, and I dont think I am alone. I waited a few days to actually do the install (phone kept nagging me). Honestly, there is almost no different than ICS. Interface is identical. I think the battery life might be a little better than with ICS... more like gingerbread when I bought it. I get 2.5 days if I push it instead of 2.0. Not a big deal. Maybe the scrolling is a tad little smoother (honestly... maybe, could be in my head), but hardly noticeable. Okay, those are a few pros. However VZW broke FoxFi and seems to have locked down the phone more and made it much harder to root. So for some slight improvements, they have blocked some functionality. What used to be easy (esp. tethering) now requires rooting, which has become more cumbersome.

    JB has Google Now. Battery hog if on and to me useless.

    Dont overrate JB (especially from VZW). ICS is good and less restrictive.

    I'll bet the official release will only be more restrictive than the "accidental" christmas release.
     
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    Most manufacturers are secretive about updates to their phones, so it isn't just Moto. And most consumers, modders really, would argue along side your question and OEMs would argue that they own the rights to the software and don't owe it to you, even though you bought the device. But, technically, they don't own it either. They skinned it and maybe added software, but if it wasn't for Google they'd never have it. Just my 2 cents.
     
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    Yeah, I just don't get the fanboy mentality on the Moto site. It's crazy.

    As far as what a phone mfg owes it's customers? Well, the way I see it, is.....you better keep up with the times or get left behind. Google can push out these OS's pretty fast and Dev's here and elsewhere seem to have no issue creating ROM's and tools seemingly by themselves, so why a multi-million or billion dollar company can't get it together is on them, lol.

    I think I just got irritated reading all the rude, nutty comments from Moto owners regarding the stupid soak test. "YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT!!! SECRETS!!!!!" But.....Jelly Bean is already out, lol??

    When we finally get JB on our phones.....you know...right before Key Lime Pie is out, lol.......rainbows and unicorns better fly out of my screen.
     
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    I think part of the reason we can't talk about it is in case there are features in the soak test that don't make it to the final version that is released to the masses.

    David
     
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    That's just Moto's way of doing business. It's their business and they have a right to do it the way they want to. If it ticks me off too much, I have the right to never buy another Moto device. I don't underdstand it or really like it, but I think the point people are making is that those involved in the soak test agree to confidentiality and they should abide by what they have agreed to. It's really just a matter of personal integrity, which is very rare in the world today. We'll get Jelly Bean whenever it's ready for the masses. Personally, I don't really care how soon. ICS works great for me and JB isn't really that much different.
     
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    Probably. I'm fine with keeping quiet. You should if you agreed to do so. The people that are C&Ping the emails are retarded, lol. "MEH!!! I GOTZ INVITE!! SAYZ BE QUIET!! LOOK!!!"

    It's pretty funny, lol. Idiots.

    My point is that JB is old now. It's no secret and it's not Fight Club. It's "Let's call it a secret when it's really not, but we will pretend it still is anyways Club".

    THAT is a silly club. Still, if you agreed to hush up, then hush up. I just dislike the fanboy (hate that word but it fits) mentality from some people. They act like Moto is paying them. It's actually the other way around.
     
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    ICS is good, but JB is way better if you ask me. Whenever I pick up my wife's DNA, I'm like..."MAAAAAN!! So smooth!!!" It really is nice. That phone is sweet though. If it had a smidge more memory, I would grab it. With the X on the way and the fact it's promising to blow our collective minds and tear a hole in the space/time continiuum, I guess I will wait.
     
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    I agree. The DNA is a smooth phone...looks sweet too. My comment about JB not being that much different is with a couple of friends of mine that got the Christmas present JB release. Their phones aren't much different than mine and really no faster/smoother that I can tell. That wasn't the fully baked version so the one that is coming may be better, so I could be wrong...wow, first time. I don't know what it feels like to be wrong...I'll have to ask my wife. She's much more experienced in that area. Anyway, comparing the DNA JB to the Razr JB isn't a good compairson as each manufacturer massages it differently with their UI. I like the HTC Sense UI, it always seems smooth no matter what OS is being run. I'm hoping that the fully cooked JB we get is a big improvement, but I'll take even small improvements. I still think ICS is quite good, but bring on the jelly beans.
     
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    Look what happened with the unintentional release... Everyone was talking about it within a few minutes. Some got it, some didn't, but almost everyone wanted it. Then all the problems and complaints....and some praise. Then it was "available" within a day for everyone else who wanted to install it. More complaints, more praise, more problems.

    In keeping a small soak test pool, MotoRizon is probably trying to minimize problems and maximize feedback. With everyone feverishly trying to DL and install it, they will most certainly end up with more problems and less feedback than they need.

    For those that don't get it, hang on and be patient. It will come soon enough. Nothing earth shattering or groundbreaking or worth getting your blood pressure up into stroke territory.

    David
     
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