First time poster and first time droid owner. I recently upgraded to the droid incredible and received the dreaded Nov ota update (slacker radio installed). The main purpose that I am rooting for is to remove the bloatware on the phone (cityid, skype, footprints, etc). From reading other forums I saw that you could potentially still use z4root and root manager to access and remove some of these. Using them in conjunction the root is still working, but when I try and move the files into an apps.disable folder, the phone crashes. I do have adb setup on my computer as well. Is there something I am missing, or do I need to wait for a better fix to be made available?