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Returning my RAZR and going back to my DX...

Discussion in 'Droid RAZR' started by GeneralZod, Dec 31, 2011.

  1. GeneralZod
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    This is by no means a criticism of the RAZR itself. The intent of this post is not to antagonize current RAZR owners, just to provide information to those considering the purchase of an LTE device. The truth of the matter is, I very well may end up with a RAZR a few months from now. But as of now, I can't justify wasting my upgrade, and spending $250, on a communication device that provides me less communications than my year and a half old device. Despite being in an area supposedly covered by 4G, I rarely have 4G coverage. Even worse, I constantly lose 3G coverage. While typing this, my 4G signal popped up for a few seconds, went to 3G, and then lost the data connection.

    Aside from the network, I did find a few little things that bugged me. I love the speed of the device, the way it flows, and the version of Blur that's included. However, when compared to my DX, there were a number of ways I found this device flat out inferior. Notification lights don't work as well, vibration is barely noticeable, the Swift Key X keyboard is not as responsive, and the ear piece rattles when on a phone call. I tried all the recommended fixes for these issues, with no improvement.

    Finally, while the Smart Actions are kind of cool, I found the primary use of them somewhat ironic. It seems the Smart Action most people use is to disable communications when the screen goes off, to improve battery life. It seems somewhat bizarre to me, that the new wave of technology requires us to disable communications on a communications device, so that the device can maintain power.

    Again... I still believe this is the best 4G device out there. I just don't think 4G devices are ready for prime time (in my area).
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    Don't blame you and it sucks 4G isn't as great in your area. I've had spotty 4G in my area when I first got my Razr last month but it improved dramatically after the first week. Hopefully 4G will get better in your area soon and go back to a 4G phone again

    Sent from my Boeing approved Moto DROID Razr
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    It sounds to me that you tried everything you could to make the device work for you, but unfortunately it falls short of what you need. I can appreciate this post because it's honest, and while not everything is an issue with all devices (weak vibrate and ear rattle) and some issues are subjective (notification light, Swift X keyboard), the bottom line is the device did not work for you.

    It's too bad 4G service is so poor in your area, because I think all the other issues aside, this would be my deal breaker. Exactly like you said, it's a waste to upgrade to a 4G device when you are still without quality 4G, given that your X is still working fine. I think the current wave of phones is getting so much hype because the sheer volume of OG Droid owners who were due for an upgrade and held out for the next best thing. In your case, you still have something working well, so it makes sense to wait for the next wave of great phones.
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    I consider the DX and the Inc1 to be the two best Verizon Droid buys right now. Good used ones can be had for well under $100, off contract!

    Most want the "latest, greatest", so the used market is flooding with these older, solid devices.

    Sent from my ADR6300 using DroidForums
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    I agree ... I love this phone and its better than my blackberry I just came from.. but the pizaz is starting to wear off... most if not all the points you made are valid points..
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    I too live in a 3G only area. At first both my phones were not playing nice, but Big Red did some tweaking and both phones now have pretty reliable connections. Hopefully they get these 4G-3G-1X handoffs straightened out. FWIW I still have my DX also and I still love it. Just can't activate it on my line or I'll permanently deactivate my 4G sim. Good luck with whatever you choose.
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    Well the X is a good phone to go back too. I kind of got a feeling you will miss the Razr though. But I understand. I'm so tempted to switch to CDMA only but to me that would defeat the purpose of upgrading to a 4g device.
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    I was also wondering if I should go back to 3G only. I know I can set my RAZR for 3G only so its not too much of an issue. I treat 4G like I do Wifi right now: use it when I really need it. And that was before all the LTE issues happening with Verizon.

    Most of the time when I upgrade, I keep the upgrade if it does something better than my old phone. In some areas regarding functionality I felt my RAZR was better. I just switched to a family plan and activated my DX1 again. I plan on testing some things. Overall it was a better experience for me with the RAZR so far. Also have a G Nex coming Wed....so I will be doing some side by side by side comparisons for some things. Thing is my DX1 is so beat up I will either upgrade it, try to get a replacement or hit up Ebay for another phone to go month to month with.

    Someone asked in another forum about what 4G phone should he give his employees. Someone made a very good post, and one of the things he said was if its for business...I would stick with 3G only phones. The battery drain alone on 4G is enough to stay away if it a business phone. Plus all the issues Verizon's LTE been having.
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    I'm very happy my OP was taken in the spirit it was intended. I think the RAZR has amazing potential, I'm a big fan of Motorola, and at present would never be on any other network but VZW. I hope VZW knocks out these issues in the next few months, because the interface was butter smooth (processor + new BLUR = awesome).
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    Im forced to drop to 3g where I work at because at&t put their repeaters all over the site and somehow prevents non at&t phones from getting reliable service. Sucks but I guess that's the nature of the beast

    Sent from my Boeing approved Moto DROID Razr
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    VZW really needs to fix their 4G. It's way too goofy at this point.

    Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk
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    I always try to stay civil, especially when dealing with a bad ass like General Zod.
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    I don't blame you. A 4G phone is a waste of an upgrade without great coverage, yes you can switch over and use 3G only but why pay a premium price for a handset that you can't utilize to it's fullest.

    I think its smart to just go with a great 3G phone.

    Sent from Droid RAZR
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    Say it ain't so, Jroc. It was good to have a voice of reason around here...

    I'm in a similar situation, I come from Droid X and at the time thought it was the best phone ever (especially running DSX). My reason's for keeping the Razr are somewhat specific. My son was born at the end of this October, so I wanted a phone that could be better suited for his arrival. I've been on family leave for two months and was able to test out my phone under these specific conditions.

    The feature upgrades over Droid X included:

    Better camera: After over 300 pic and videos under low light conditions, the Razr camera is a lot better than X. Better exposure and less noise. Outside it's probably similar, but indoors - no contest. Miss the hardware shutter button, but it's a good compromise.

    FFC: For when I go back to work.

    Capacitive buttons: When trying to get a newborn to sleep, silent buttons are key. Did not know how much I missed them until I got the Razr. Can't handle the buttons on the X now...

    Slim profile with a similar battery life: Since the majority of my days are on Wifi, this is still an unknown to me. But the test runs on 3G have been good (with Smart Actions, of course).

    ACCESS to 4G: I knew that for MY use, I don't need constant access to high speed. My email and messages get pushed over 3G just fine. I don't constantly surf over 4G. But when I do need it, I wanted to know that I can access it.

    GPS performance. The lock on the Razr is faster and more precise than on the X. I attribute it to the access to GLONASS satellite network as well as our own. A feature that is missed in a lot of reviews. Currently only Droid Razr and Galaxy Note (not Nexus) appear to be the only phones to use it. A great feature upgrade.

    Screen (a very personal opinion). I just like the screen of Razr better than X. Some might not. I do.

    And a very weird personal one: It fits into my Kuhl pants phone pocket better. An essential quality to me. Love those damn pants :)

    But, I completely understand why would someone go back to the X. That phone is a beast, very well built, and very well developer supported.
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    Not only this but 4G phones even when set to 3G only just don't perform as well on 3G. At least in my experiences.
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    Anyone using a DX and wanting soft keys, check out Button Saviour on the market. it's very customizable and I used it all the time on my DX.
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    Oh I'm not going anywhere....lol. Its just funny cuz I thought about it while all these outages were going on. RAZR has been good to me. I live n work in a bad reception area anyway so for me to manage battery life, 3G is getting more use than 4G for me. I use it like Wifi. I have Wifi at home, my apt is a virtual dead zone, so I'm used to only using 3G when I'm out the house. Now I use 4G out the house, but like Wifi, when I want or need the faster connection.

    Forgot about the FFC...lol. I was only thinking about the speaker sounding louder and reception seeming to be better on my RAZR. Maybe I had a bad speaker on my DX1 but my RAZR is louder. And on top of those 2 things....the better version of Blur and the smoothness of the RAZR overall.. I couldnt go back to my DX1 as a daily phone. Only way I would is if I didnt see any improvements in functionality for me. And my DX1 screen washes out bad when viewing off center. As much as I liked LCD screens last year.....I am an Amoled fan now.

    And for playing games...I actually miss the hard keys on my DX1. Too many accidental presses on capacitive screens is killing me...got a feeling it wont get any better with the G Nex.
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    The lack of 4g coverage is extremely disappointing. I actually leave my Razr on 3g only. But the specs itself are definitely superior. I used my upgrade unfortunately too soon. I could've kept my inc2, but my wife wouldn't let her gorilla grip off my old phone, so I'm keeping my Razr, its not a bad thing, but I could've waited...anyone else miss their old 3g phone?????lol

    Sent from my Chuck Norris approved Droid RAZR
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    Well you wont be suffering to bad going back to the X! One of the most solid best phones ever made. It is strange that when changing to 3g only on a 4g phone it doesn't really help. It seemed like the OGD and the X could get a signal even if I were to go to the moon.
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    Agreed... the RAZR is a nice upgrade on the camera... plus the front-facing camera is a great addition. That said, I was hoping for a more significant upgrade between the RAZR and the DX.

    Couldn't agree more.

    The slimmer profile is very nice, but quite honestly, I prefer the size of the DX (height x length) to the RAZR. Just feels better in my hand. Obviously, completely personal preference.

    I agree... the RAZR has the better screen. Again, similar to the camera, a more significant upgrade would have been nice.
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