Razr reveiw vs 4s... what a joke

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    Anyone else notice Almost every single reveiw about the two favors the iphone yet the razr has it beat in all most all its specs... not to mention the "And the razr has no removable battery so thats points off..." last time i checked neither did the iphone LOL.. soo idk did anyone else notice the fact the world has been brain washed by apple?
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    That's just the way the media is, mainstream, niche, or otherwise. Always a bias leaning more towards something. The applezombism is huge.
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    I'd bet the people who wrote those reviews are iPhone owners, members of the liberal press and been drinking Apple Kool Aid all their cuddled life...MacBoys.




    Sent from my DROID RAZR
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    I hate Mac/ Apple. Everyone assumes they are so great when in reality you can buy a pc for half of the price of a Mac Ans the specs are a thousand times better
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    Yup considering my gaming pc would blow every single mac out of the water :) i have the fastest quad core on the market along with the 590gtx :D how many macs can say that?
    But yeah ive had the iphone 4 i droped it for a galaxy s phone and ive messed with the 4s a little and the s2 blows it outa the water 110% and my little razr blows the skyrocket outa the water soo where does that leave the standing :) maybe the media should just own both phones before they do reviews in all honesty as much as i hate apple the 4s is ok for people who have trouble with "tech" like older people who think a dual core chip is a multi flavored chip LOL each phone has their respective pros and cons the phones are just for different people i care about specs thats why i buy android.... if i wanted somthing simple to use and nice id buy the iphone
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    I don't get the "use the iphone because it's simpler" mantra. If you want a wall-of-apps interface, Android does that by default. No one forces anyone to load widgets, live wallpaper, or home screen replacements.

    The Apple bias runs deep, and I think I know why: the ipod. iPods are ubiquitous media players, and most tech-wannabe people own one (like tech bloggers and reviewers). When people made the jump to a smartphone, the iphone had a familiar interface so there was zero learning curve; after all, it's basically an ipod touch with phone calling and 3G. Thus the myth of "easy to use" was perpetuated. But it's a myth.

    Case in point: my wife. She is by no means a techie. She prefers an actual notepad to a virtual one, and it took a long time for her to even use the internet on her smartphone. She has only had Droids (OG Droid, now a Samsung Galaxy Tab 7) and has never used an ipod. She has zero issues using her GTab or the OG before it. However, when she uses her friend's iphone, I hear her saying things like, "Where's the back button? How do you search from here? How do I get to the menu? How do I switch apps? etc." The iphone isn't easier to use; it's just different. But, since the interface is the exact same as the most popular media player out there, people who have extensively used that media player (ipod) will think iphone is a very simple, intuitive interface.

    Back on topic: I don't get it, either. The RAZR has a better screen (I don't care about the resolution; sAMOLED>IPSLCD), faster processor, cooler form factor, bigger screen, thinner profile, FAR better OS, better call quality, faster mobile data, more options, and on and on and on. I have a few Applehead friends, and they won't even look at my Android stuff. It's weird; I like tech, so when a buddy of mine got the first ipad I couldn't wait to try it out. He claims to like tech, but really only likes Apple. When I got my Droid, my Android tablet, and now my RAZR, he couldn't care less. This is a guy that said, when my OG Droid had great multitasking, "Wy would I need that on a phone?" When Apple got iOS4, though, he suddenly thought multitasking was awesome. I wonder how he (and other Apple faithful) would react if Apple came out with a 4G phone (that can be turned to 3G to save battery) with a 4.3" sAMOLED screen, live wallpapers, and widgets? I bet he'd find it pretty compelling.
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    Did you really just attribute the "liberal" label to the tech press? Please don't tell my you think that Android is conservative choice. I like my technology to be free of unrelated philosophies :D
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    I wouldn't think Android is the "conservative" choice, but most tech press I've read is pretty liberal (when they get into politics, which is kind of rare). Apple is generally embraced by liberals due to it being the OS of choice for higher education (one of the reasons Apple's main "charity" is to give colleges discounts on their hardware). There's nothing wrong with any of that, but it could explain the bias towards Apple products in tech site reviews, which is what I think jpcalhoun was saying.
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    Yes I did. From my first hand exposure to "techies" and my browsing the tech oriented articles, blogs etc it is clear to me that iPhone users, particularly techies, also have a very left wing/liberal idiology about life in general. And, they are just as "blind" and unwilling to see anything a different way. Are Android techies more conservative...yeah I think so in general.
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    Perhaps, but I still can't help but see the "liberal media" comment above as a written more from the habit of using pre-canned epithets. But that is a conversation for another forum, or maybe even board.
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    Yeah, no need to start an off topic discussion here...it can only go down hill if you know what I'm saying.
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    It's usually not a joke when it comes from a reputable site.

    When I was looking to upgrade my device, I checked big sites, CNET, Edgadget, etc. and Found most sites will tell you to get which device based on what you use your device for.

    I take any reviews by some guy or "company" that mainly houses all their content in their Youtube videos like A LOT of the reviewers out there, with a grain of salt.

    Bottom line is what kind of device is good for you is based on your needs and demands of the phone.

    I have owned(or my GF owned and I used extensively) every Apple phone, a few different blackberry's and a handful of Android phones.

    For my tastes and needs, which are work related with a little media and browsing/videos built in, I like Android handsets. I need 4G and apple doesn't offer that yet. The big screen make it easier for emails and web-browsing. HDMI out really helps me out a lot too. The RAZR, which I have, links up to my car just fine, and syncs with my Outlook and Google accounts just fine. The ability to customize with Android is also top notch and second to none IMO.

    I'd say the Blackberry's work for those who like that OS and need Microsoft exchange support, as they do it best.

    iPhone's in my opinion are best for casual phone users who want games and media content, as well as a decent amount of business applications.

    With any review, you need to take it with a grain of salt, but know any reputable site won't say a phone sucks unless it actually does.

    The only people i've see saying the RAZR sucks are probably 21, still living at home, and making videos on the computer their parents bought them.
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    I find this post interesting because CNET, one of the BIGGEST reviewers raves about the RAZR and gives it a higher rating than the iPhone 4S.

    I own both, and when people ask me which is better I ask them what they want to get out of their phone. If they're a technical person and have 4G coverage in their area I go with Android. If they like a minimalistic look and want an easy-to-operate phone I steer them towards the iPhone 4S. One thing I can't argue is the iPhone 4S' camera puts the RAZR's to shame.

    Android has done a great job tightening up their OS that now it's really preferencial and either is a great phone.
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    How is it that the RAZR can't be as minimalistic and easy to operate as the iPhone 4S? I've never understood this viewpoint. If you simply want a bunch of apps and no widgets, live wallpapers, or the like, go for it! Why is it Apple gets points for being "simple" when Android can be just as simple? Unless, like I said earlier, we're assuming someone is coming from an iPod Touch.
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    Have you used an iPhone as your primary phone before? There is only ONE way to do anything. You want to delete an app? Press and hold and click the x. You want to buy a song? Go to iTunes and download it. It's such a controlled environment that the user has no choice but to do things the right way.

    With Android there are a multitude of ways to accomplish the same task. Want to delete an app? Depends on what version of Android your running, then do you use a 3rd party app or built in uninstall. Wanna play a song? Which app do you use? Battery not lasting as long as you'd like? There are thousands of modifications you can make to tailor fit your experience.

    I don't think anyone can legitimately argue that iOS is not a more controlled environment where Apple forces you to complete tasks the way they want you to. With the iPhone you get 1 experience. Whether or not it's a good one? Like I said before, it's preferencial.
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    That still doesn't mean the iPhone is simpler; just more limited. I'll take your points and explain.
    Want to delete an app on your RAZR? Press and hold in the app drawer. Sure, there are other ways; but this is the same simplicity. The user doesn't need to know the other ways.
    Want to buy a song? Pick one way and stick with it. Google Music, for example. Never use anything else; just as simple as iOS (and right there in the Market, just like iTunes).

    My point is, you will get only one experience from Android if you don't go and find others. But, if you ever want more out of your handset, that's there, too. There's nothing about iOS that's innately simpler than Android. I've had family members curse iOS because they couldn't figure something out or they ran into an issue. My brother in law, an Apple faithful, frequently has to help family members utilise their iOS devices. I help out on the Android end, too, so I'm not saying iOS is broken compared to Android; just that it's false to say iOS is simpler. iOS can be simpler if you really use the functionality of your Android, but Android can be just as simple as iOS.
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    Interesting, my experience has been the opposite. I have had friends and family in their 60's and 70's with NO prior tech background take to the iPhone flawlessly. There are no submenus or finders to go through. Everything is right there on the screen and there is only one button for them to hit and it only does 1 thing.

    You're correct in saying it's more limited, agreed. Using both phones on a daily basis, I've recognized first hand that there are more creative and helpful ways to do things on my RAZR, and there are more direct and reliable ways to do things on the iPhone. There is a reason the iPhone outsells any other phone, it appeals to the masses.

    Personally I agree with the CNET review, the RAZR has greater capabilities and is a more advanced phone. But I would still recommend the iPhone to my Mom or Grandma over any Android phone.
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    Well, I would suppose our sample sizes are far too small to be statistically significant. My Mom had a really tough time learning her iPhone and my sister had a tough time learning her iPod, but that same sister took to her Droid Incredible like a fish to water. My wife is a complete non-techie, but she took to her Droid and GTab wonderfully. iOS has the mass appeal because it's the "it" phone right now; I don't think the necessary corollary is that iOS is easier than Android. That's a possible inference based on iPhone's sales vs. any other, single handset, but one could logically draw the exact same inference from Android's market dominance over iOS. Both conclusions would be lacking due to the huge amount of factors affecting smartphone sales.

    Bottom line: I have never seen anything to make me think that iOS is simpler than Android can be out of the box. I really believe that widespread iPod ownership is the real reason people find the iPhone easy to use.
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    Lol I live with my parents and am 22 but I love my razr. I only deal with android devices
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