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Discussion in 'Droid RAZR' started by Timothyjon86, Nov 14, 2011.

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    Got my Razr on Thursday of last week and have been very disappointed with the battery life. I belive the problem is the constant running of 10-15 apps at all times even when I don't open them. The list of apps that wont stop running are:

    Flashligh
    Social Networking
    Facebook
    Amazon app store
    Gmail
    ESPN Scorecenter
    VZ Nav
    Text Messaging
    Voicemail
    Alarm and Timer
    Calorie Counter
    Mp3 Music Download
    My Verizon

    Now I realize that half of those are 3rd party apps I downloaded but that doesn't mean they should always be running. Is there anything I can do to make these stop running when I don't want them to? This 5HR battery life is useless.
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    Do not download and install a Task Killer...they usually cause more problems than they fix. Your phone has an app called Task Manager. Through Task Manager you can identify apps to close two minutes after your screen goes blank. There are some apps that you don't want to kill after two minutes...gmail, text messaging, voicemail, maps etc). Depending on which apps you use will depend if you want to identify them as apps to close after two minutes of screen off. Do not identify moto or google services unless you really understand what that service is needed for. Most apps on your phone can be selected...their just going to be closed two minutes after your screen turns off. They will start back up the next time you select them.
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    I have the auto kill activated with all the apps I listed and it does nothing. I open Task Killer and all those apps are still listed as running even after I let the phone sit asleep for 10mins. As soon as I turn it back on they are all there. Any other suggestions?
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    Geez...I've done the same thing as you, but in my case the identified apps are in fact being closed. You might try going into app management and clear data for those apps that continue to run...see if that helps.
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    Here's an article by "Lifehacker". It's almost 2 years old now and it was written to explain why "Task Killers" are bad. It does however have a fairly basic explanation of how Android operates and why those apps are not actually running and why it is not actually bad for the phone:

    [h=3]How Android Manages Processes[/h]In Android, processes and Applications are two different things. An app can stay "running" in the background without any processes eating up your phone's resources. Android keeps the app in its memory so it launches more quickly and returns to its prior state. When your phone runs out of memory, Android will automatically start killing tasks on its own, starting with ones that you haven't used in awhile.
    The problem is that Android uses RAM differently than, say, Windows. On Android, having your RAM nearly full is a good thing. It means that when you relaunch an app you've previously opened, the app launches quickly and returns to its previous state. So while Android actually uses RAM efficiently, most users see that their RAM is full and assume that's what's slowing down their phone. In reality, your CPU—which is only used by apps that are actually active—is almost always the bottleneck.
    [h=3]Why Task Killers Are (Usually) Bad News[/h]Apps like Advanced Task Killer, the most popular task killer in the Market, act on the incorrect assumption that freeing up memory on an Android device is a good thing. When launched, it presents you with a list of "running" apps and the option to kill as many as you want. You can also hit the Menu button to access a more detailed "Services" view, that lists exactly which parts of each application are "running", how much memory they take up, and how much free memory is available on your phone. This set-up implies that the goal of killing these apps is to free up memory. Nowhere on the list does it mention the number of CPU cycles each app is consuming, only the memory you'll free by killing it. As we've learned, full memory is not a bad thing—we want to watch out for the CPU, the resource that actually slows down your phone and drains your battery life.
    Thus, killing all but the essential apps (or telling Android to kill apps more aggressively with the "autokill" feature) is generally unnecessary. Furthermore, it's actually possible that this will worsen your phone's performance and battery life. Whether you're manually killing apps all the time or telling the task killer to aggressively remove apps from your memory, you're actually using CPU cycles when you otherwise wouldn't—killing apps that aren't doing anything in the first place.
    In fact, some of the processes related to those apps will actually start right back up, further draining your CPU. If they don't, killing those processes can cause other sorts of problems—alarms don't go off, you don't receive text messages, or other related apps may force close without warning. All in all, you're usually better off letting your phone work as intended—especially if you're more of a casual user. In these instances, a task killer causes more problems than it solves.
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    Here's some ways to improve your battery life. This a long list of options and you can select to use the ones that work for you and the way you use your phone:

    If you are having short battery life:

    Consider doing a factory reset. Do not sync apps, wifi connections, etc. with Google services as that may cause a problem. Install all apps and wifi connections from scratch. A bit of a pain, but not too bad.- install a home/launcher replacement. I use Go Launcher EX, which is free, and I love it. No reason not to try out an alternative launcher as you can always go back to how you had it.

    - Don't use an automatic task killer--not even the one that comes with the phone. Reboot your phone and look at what's running. If anything that you've installed is running and there's no reason for it, then uninstall it and find an alternative that behaves. Ignore any stock apps that run on boot as I've found them to be more or less benign.

    - Weather widgets, live wallpapers, news/social feeds, any app or service that you use that runs--do without it if you can. If you can’t do without it, lengthen it’s refresh time.

    - Don't use antivirus

    - Set your WIFI sleep policy to never. The default is "turn off when screen turns off". This will cause the wifi to reconnect every time you open the phone. From any Home Screen select Menu/Settings/Wireless & Networks/ and then use the Menu button to see some new options - select Advanced. Then select Wifi Sleep Policy and set it to Never. Home key to return to Home Screen.

    - If you have access to wifi, leave it toggled on as it is more efficient than 3G. Wifi consumes less battery power than 3G.

    - I leave GPS toggled on too by the way. Apps use it as needed. When I'm done with Maps or an app that uses it, I'm sure to return to the home screen so GPS can stop. Under wireless settings turn on "Google location services" so that an app is able to use network resources to get your location instead of GPS. I have "VZW location services" turned off--don't know why that option is even there. By the way, I increase the speed of voice output > text to speech > speech rate because I like the directions to get spit out faster. That saves a bit of battery. Turning off the display and just listening for directions help. Also, often I just get the directions and then exit back to the home screen: GPS uses so much battery I try to get it over with ASAP.

    - When you get a 1) new battery, 2) do a factory reset, or 3) an OS upgrade - run your battery all the way down until the phone shuts off and then charge the battery all the way up. This will calibrate the phone's understanding of the battery's capacity. Do this once every month or two also, but don't do it too often if you can help it.

    - I have my battery set to "Performance Mode" and data is on all the time because I am on call 24x7. If you don't mind, try out a more conservative battery profile to save more gobs of energy.

    - Set screen brightness to "Automatic"

    - Under Accounts, click on any account listed and turn off sync for any items that you're not interested in syncing. For example, Google Books if you don't use it. Don't use Backup Assistant--I prefer syncing my contacts with Google. You don't need both. Also go into your contacts > menu > display options > backup assistant > UNCHECK. Also do contacts > menu > more > settings > contact storage > and select your Google account and "remember this choice"

    - Turn on Bluetooth only when you are going to use it.

    - Consider turning off voice privacy. This may not be a big deal but it will save some processing (and therefore battery). It may also improve call quality.

    -T off haptic feedback, animations, and any un-needed sounds in Android settings and in your apps

    - Set your screen timeout to as low a time as you can stand (I use 1 minute) and manually turn the screen off when you’ve finished using the phone.

    - Turn off in-pocket detection

    - Keyboard: turn off vibrate on key press and sounds for any keyboards you use

    - Use a red or black screen background. On the original Droid screen--not sure about this Bionic screen--red was the most efficient color that could be displayed.

    - Camera app: I like keeping location on and flash on auto. Consider turning location off or at least returning to the home screen ASAP when using camera if location for camera is on.

    - In stock browser the default home page is Google and it uses your location. This is a bad idea as it can waste your battery for no reason. Make something else your home page and make sure to close any web page that uses your location when you're done viewing it.

    - Charge your phone via the wall charger instead of computer USB as it is faster. Also, don't use long USB cords--use regular power extension cords instead. I stick with the charger that came with the phone. Put the phone on charger when you go to bed every night.

    - Consider install the Home Replacement app Zeam. It is basic app that uses very few resources and will help with battery power.




    This is a link to some very good videos about saving battery power on the Bionic (there are 4 parts and the other parts will show up as available videos when part 1 finishes):

    Battery Saving Video

    Part 1:
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