Pro discontinued !!!!! AAAGGGHHH.....

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    They're telling me the Pro is already discontinued! Anyone have an idea what they will replace it with in the future with the same keyboard?! I love my Pro and wonder what will replace it when this becomes obsolete?????

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    Well that's not really a surprise considering the phone is over a year old.

    Anyway, there IS a successor to the Pro, but it's on Sprint and it's called the Motorola Admiral, which I'm currently using. It just came out in October and it's a good upgrade in many respects. The form is pretty much the same, except there are more hardware buttons and the keyboard is easier to use. Build quality is much better. The keyboard is softer compared to the Pro, slightly bigger and wider, and it feels like a Blackberry Bold's. Specwise, the processor is 1.2 ghz, screen resolution has been increased to VGA quality, and the video camera is now HD 720p. There are also some subtle changes but it's more or less the same experience as the Pro.

    Don't worry, I'm sure Motorola will make additional versions of the Pro/XPRT/Admiral in the future. They DO have a market and as for myself I will only buy mid or high end portrait QWERTY Androids. However, as of late it seems only Sprint is really pushing for these types of phones.
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    Thank you so much for the information. That's very encouraging. Even though I love my Pro, I still miss alot of the features (and comfortable use) of my BB.

    Do you think there is a way to buy an Admiral and unlock it to use with Verizon instead of Sprint?

    Thanks!

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    I believe that Sprint and Verizon use different CDMA radios so that would not be an option.

    My wife loves her Pro, so I too will be looking for a successor!

    Sent from my rooted, safestrapped, and ROM'd XT862
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    Hmm, there may be a way to put it on Verizon but I wouldn't suggest trying. You could brick or fry the phone by accident and even if you do get it to work, often times certain features will not work (e.g. data). I've asked wireless businesses if they could flash my Droid Pro to Metro PCS (Sprint) and they said it would involve too much work along with the high risk of breaking my phone in the process. I personally know nothing about flashing phones though.

    Anyway, the Admiral is barely worth the upgrade in my opinion. I only got it because I had my non-contract Pro on Pageplus (not worth the $) and decided to get a line on my family's Sprint plan. The Admiral suffers from the same terrible UI as the Pro, which is MotoBlur. So, it's still somewhat laggy (I turn off animations to make it faster) and it doesn't have as many features as Samsung's Touchwiz or HTC's Sense.

    My major problems I had with the Pro included the lack of a dedicated camera button, the annoying volume buttons, and general bugginess. The Admiral fixes the hardware issues and gives me a speaker button on top and a convenience key that works as a shortcut for any app I'd like which is great. Also, the speaker is VERY loud (on the front of the phone) with superb sound quality in general. However, the Admiral is around $300 or $400 full retail price (on Sprint $100) and it's not generally worth it. It seems to be gaining popularity very slowly, so I don't think there will be much development for it in the future. If I were you I'd wait for a better phone to come out, something that's 4G, with a dual-core CPU, more RAM, and preloaded with the new Ice Cream Sandwich. If none of that matters to you and you don't mind the crippling MotoBlur, then get the Admiral as it has excellent hardware. You may be able to put it on Metro PCS, Virgin Mobile, or even Boost Mobile (with some troublesome flashing of course) if you don't like Sprint.
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    Thanks so much for all the helpful information and taking the time to share about your Admiral. I'll wait and keep hoping for Vz to make a successor with better features, memory, and 4G.
    Thanks again! :)

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    P.S. - hal83

    I forgot to ask how much improved performance you gained from turning off animations? I just went into my settings and turned mine off as well. Are there any other suggestions you have to improve performance and speed?

    Mine was working fine until the last OS update. Then it started lagging and freezing-up and really slowing down. I finally did a factory re-set and started all over, but that didn't seem to help. I have not rooted my phone yet because I'm still a bit confused on how to do that and don't want to do any major damage by experimenting blindly.

    Thanks again!

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    Hello. I'd say my phone doesn't waste time opening up animations for windows anymore so it IS faster. Once you turn them off you don't really notice a difference after awhile anymore -- they're unnecessary on laggy Moto phones.

    - To improve performance and speed (and battery!) I keep my battery mode on "Performance Mode" when I'm using it (and then "Maximum Battery Saver" when it's asleep/I'm out somewhere). DON'T use live wallpapers or widgets as they eat into your RAM. I only have 2 small widgets running on mine. Turn off apps that run in the background if they're unnecessary (e.g. IM or Skype). Don't use anti-virus apps. Use Wifi instead of 3G, it's faster and better on your battery. Don't leave GPS services on when you're not using them. Don't leave Bluetooth on. I've heard you should turn off the "In-Pocket Detection" feature.

    - If your browser is too slow, use Opera Mini or Opera Mobile. Opera Mini uses compressed web pages to deliver pages to you faster while using less data. I don't believe Opera Mobile compresses but it is the fastest browser I've used, with the features I need.

    - Don't use the stock Gallery app. I personally use QuickPic, which is MUCH better and faster, and it has some added features.

    (Credit for some of these tips goes to BayouFlyFisher in the thread "Battery Draining Too Fast!" by SAVVY_1. Check it out, it has some other great, detailed tips.)

    Anyway, I've seen that a lot of people have had trouble with their Droid Pros after getting Gingerbread. I was fortunate that I didn't have any problems with it. I advise you to check the other threads about Gingerbread issues and fixes. Btw, is your phone's SD card filled up? A full SD card may cause lag.

    Rooting the Pro involves a couple steps and is easy. There are a couple threads that tell you exactly what to do. And if you do mess up you can always SBF your phone, which is also easy. If you root you can also improve performance by freezing the stock apps that run in the background that you can't turn off or uninstall yourself, which also helped me.

    That's about it. Good luck. :)
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    Take a look at the droid 3.

    It is a slider qwerty but the extra row for dedicated number buttons makes it nice

    Sent from my rooted BAMF'd Thunderbolt using magic.
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    I didn't like any of the Droids with sliding qwerty keyboards because the position and upper weight of the phone was hard on my carpal tunnel. I found them to be cumbersome and uncomfortable to use. That's why I chose the Pro because it has the same (similar) form and style as my BBerry and is much easier on my carpal tunnel.

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    I'm waiting for a Samsung Galaxy Glide to get delivered to me. I'll try to share my thoughts as compared to my Pro with you guys.
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    I never understood why people always come into this forum talking about qwerty sliders. There's tons of those with way better specs than the portrait qwertys, as we ALL know. However, most of us bought the Pro for it's main purpose: the form factor.

    To me, slide-out keyboards are inconvenient and obnoxious to use. They are too wide (can't type with just one hand) and the keys are always too flat! Also they add way too much bulk to the phone and the hinges or sliding mechanism may become weak and break over time. They just don't feel right in the hand.

    As I've said before, it's unfortunate that companies won't even consider making high-end portrait qwertys, but I guess that just means I get to hold on to my current phone longer without throwing money at a new phone every month.
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    While I generally agree, if you haven't picked up a d3, the keyboard is the best slider I've ever used.

    I understand the form factor tho (wife has a pro).

    Sent from my DROID3 using Tapatalk
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    I really miss my PRO since I went to a BIONIC..... Needed the speed of 4G and the mobile hot spot.

    The only thing I don't miss is the backlight randomly shutting off

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    You're using the Admiral? is it CDMA-only, or can it go GSM? That's the only thing stopping me from dumping VZW and going to Sprint for the Admiral. I need the GSM when traveling.
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    I couldn't agree more. The Droid, etc. (sliders) are no more useful to me than a virtual keyboard. Build me a Blackberry running Droid. That's what I want, period. I simply am not going to use anything but a portrait physical keyboard.
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    Unfortunately it's only CDMA. Yeah I dumped Verizon (or Pageplus rather) for unlimited data :) It seems that world phones are becoming a lot more popular nowadays (new iPhone is a world phone; I think the Droid RAZR is too) so maybe that trend will continue. All-in-all, the Admiral is not a worthy upgrade anyway. If it's faster, it's not noticeable. Subpar photos and the camcorder looks horrible even in broad daylight. Same terrible UI. It has the same reboot issues (outrageous!!) as the Droid Pro.

    CES 2012 show just kicked off and a whole slew of new android phones are coming out in the next few months with dual-core processors, amazing cameras, and the shiny, new Ice Cream Sandwich update. Unfortunately I haven't seen any yet with ANY type of physical keyboard (2012 must be the year of the death of keyboards).
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    I'm counting on keyboards coming back when RIM finally goes belly-up. Right now, we're the weird ones--all the other portrait-keyboard-heads are using BlackBerrys. As RIM continues to crater (or at least the handset side of it), they'll migrate to something, and then there'll be more demand for the form factor.

    I really don't understand why there's not more offered like the Pro--or why they're even discontinuing it. Its keyboard is horrible (at least compared to BlackBerrys) but the reason most of the BlackBerry users I know still have them is because either they (or whoever makes the phone-buying decisions) wants to keep the form factor. The BES went away as a good reason to keep RIM (at least according to the IT guys I talk to) a while ago, unless you've got some specific security concern. If someone offered the Admiral as a world phone, or the Droid Pro+ on VZW, they'd sell. Maybe not like the new Nexus, but the flip side is that you're buying multiples of phones at once, with the top-tier plans and insurance, and when it's time to replace them, there aren't contract concerns. They just pay retail.

    If this keeps up too much longer, I'm actually going to have to switch to ATT for the Pro+.
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    Motorola Announced Droid Pro successor back in August.. the Droid Pro+. Motorola announces Pro+, slightly upgraded Pro with Gingerbread - Rethink Wireless Available in Europe in Asia, I assume it will come to USA soon. I think the Pro i such a niche that they don't but a lot of advertising into it. It will just appear in stores one day.
    As for keyboard phones at CES, Droid 4 got announced and I thought a few more new ones with physical keyboard. I heard on one podcast that physical keyboards will make a come back in the next couple years.
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    The funny thing is I've never had a Blackberry in my life and I don't plan on it. To be honest I don't think RIM will be able to make a comeback (they haven't done much for the OS). Most BB users I know (none of them businesspeople) only use the phones specifically for BBM -- a lot of them would switch to all touchscreen devices in a heartbeat if they could (and many already have).

    I completely understand why the Pro is unpopular. It's top heavy and one of the ugliest looking phones to a lot of people. It's mostly about aesthetics. It has a smaller, lower res touchscreen and in this day and age people want bigger screens. It's also thick and people want thin phones that slip into their pockets. People generally prefer a sleek slab of touchscreen -- no keyboards. Look at ICS, it seems Google's pushing for phones with NO buttons.

    I've been looking for a decent Android portrait qwerty for over a full year. Motorola seems to be the only ones willing to make these phones. The only thing that repelled me from the HTC Status was the Facebook button and the ugly design and minimal specs. I think I'm honestly considering giving up and switching to a (small) slider with amazing specs after dealing with the many problems of my Admiral.

    But everyone's KNOWN about the Droid 4 for months. The other phones were previously unheard of.
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