[Official] Regarding Upcoming OTA

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  1. Koveleski
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    Just for a heads up. VZW is going to begin pushing out the official Gingerbread update for the DX.

    It's not known if the OTA will be rootable. Chances are that eventually a method will be found, but it's also possible it could take a long time.

    If your phone is prompted to update (if on .340) and if you want to remain on the safe side, it's advised that you decline.

    Stay tuned for more updates.
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    There are tons of threads about this "upcomming update". No doubt it is going to happen but I am find myself timid to do it as I would prefer root. So....I for one will be waiting to get root established before I accept OTA.
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    I'll also be waiting till there is root. There is no way I'll be going back to unrooted ROM... or even considering it.

    Thanks for the update!
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    I don't see myself every taking the update.

    Since it isn't rooted yet, there isn't much of an update to anything, (by that I mean its a VERY minor update.) and it would suck to have to reROM over again.
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    I think I will wait. I just rooted and do not want to go back

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    Does Liberty not block OTA updates?
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    Any rom will block the OTA, you have to be on stock 2.3.340 to get it.

    I'm not one to spread rumor, but there has been a lot of speculation that VZW is going to use this update to track root users by monitoring who does and does not accept the update. If this is true my guess is that they plan do doing more than just tracking root users as rooting isn't illegal, but plan on watching data usage of those who don't take the update. Again just rumor and speculation right now.

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    I would think they have plenty of other ways of seeing who is a root user.
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    Verizon can kiss my @$$. I OWN my device, so I can legally modify it in any way I want. I also pay for UNLIMITED DATA, so I should be able to use that data however I want, because I paid for it. There is no little rule that says I can't use more than so many megabytes per hour. I pay them for the SERVICE, I think they should just back off.
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    Until I see some actual evidence of this and not just here say, ill chalk it up to paranoia

    From my Liberated DROID2 at 1.25ghz
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    No, you pay for "Feature Phones, 3G & 4G Smartphones" Unlimited Data. They are selling you a service priced upon the average usage for a person using one of the devices in the plan description. Smartphones in general use less data/network utilization because they stream lower bitrate video, music, many larger sites today recognize the device from the HTTP request and serve the mobile site. I travel extensively and use my DX tons, I have never come close to using the amount of data from the phone in a month that I do in a couple weeks when I have to tether for work (yes I pay the $20 when I know I'm going to need the service).

    I can't argue that Verizon charges a premium for their services but you have other choices, just because they charge more than other carriers for smartphone data doesn't you're paying for a different service.

    This whole "OMG I'M ENTITLED" is a BS rationalization. I don't give a crap that some call it "stealing," what annoys me is the a) obvious self inflicted delusion that people want to believe that unlimited data for a phone means unlimited data for whatever they want, b) that it's giving Verizon additional rationalizations for limiting our abilities to mod our phones (the "OMG see they're "stealing services" we can't let them root).

    If you're going to lie to yourself that you're entitled to tether do the community a favor and keep it to yourself.

    Edit: Although I do agree that you own your device and should be allowed to do whatever you want to it and I think it's a reasonable request as long as we don't cost the carriers additional money to support us (in other words, hardware warranty should remain intact but don't expect them to support the comprehensive warranty if you're modded).
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    I don't even care about the warranty. Even if the screen goes dead I can still SBF back and there will be no trace of liberty since it is a solid state storage.

    We don't cost them more using more data. They massively overcharge for data. They just don't like the amount of bandwidth we use up. If everyone paid for the lousy tethering service they would still have the same issue. What we pay for data goes way beyond what it costs them to give us the data service.
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    I'd like to take the OTA just so I'm not on any lists Verizon might be compiling. Will the following steps work:

    1. Make backup
    2. SBF to stock FroYo
    3. Accept OTA
    4. SBF to stock FroYo
    5. Root, install clockwork recovery, restore backup

    Would that put me back where I currently am (.591 Giberated)?

    Thanks for y'all's thoughts,

    Daniel
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    If the radio version or bootloader change you wont be able to sbf back to froyo. Something tells me vzw thought of that too.

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    Word from another forum is that bootloader is still 30.04.

    I'm going to try p3droid's update from leaked GB to root .596 GB and let you all know how it goes. I'm also going to try the SBF back to FroYo and take the OTA release and then try to restore back and let you know the results on that also.

    Daniel

    Sorry I meant Do. Not try. ;)

    OK, deodexed-596 installed over .591 liberty 0.5 worked but launcher settings all gone and everything seems reset except for my apps are still installed, my wallpaper is the same, and I still have that cool CRT-out animation. The liberty startup graphics are still there. Also that first boot took forever. And it said no service available. I'm going to reboot into recovery and try to do a data restore.

    Data restore did nothing to restore my settings... boot still took a while. Baseband is .12P as it was before. Just so I feel comfy I'm doing a full restore. Service works just fine btw.

    Full restore brought me back to where I was before with all my Gibby goodness. Time to SBF to FroYo and take the OTA.

    OK I just did the SBF and on the first reboot I get the Motorola logo but instead of the Droid X boot animation I still have the Liberty one? Once it comes up I'm going to go into recovery and wipe/reset.

    Its been about 6 minutes and that Liberty logo is still just a'spinnin' round. Time to pull battery and recovery/reset. Formatting cache for good measure.

    Droid X boot animation is back. Keeping crossed fingers...

    Welcome to DROIDX I'm going to activate but skip all the account setup stuff and just go for the OTA update.

    Well! Baseband .07P, version 2.3.340, But a System Updates check says "Your device is up to date!No update is necessary at this time." What now? I'm going to connect to WiFi and see what happens. Nope... still no update available. Are they rolling this OTA update out on a geographic basis? Time to root and restore.

    Guess its not going to be that easy. Love to learn though. SBF, then root, then get to .588 and on to liberty 0.5 on .591 from there and THEN restore.
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    Daniel, you are a brave and determined soul. Thanks for the report.



    -m

    { DroidX «» Liberty 2.0.1 «» TapaTalk }
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    Used the black hat install zip file update to the official gingerbread (.596) and I have root. I installed it directly over 591 running liberty v0.5 without wiping and all is running smooth.
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    I was on Liberty 2.0 and restored to a .340 Blur backup and flashed the 2 stage zip and it's running smoothly. I much prefer my liberty so I guess I'll hold out for a 596 rom.
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    Good luck completely removing all traces of a custom ROM without a screen, but as long as you can demonstrate it's their hardware's fault and not your flashed third party ROM, then yes they need to step up and honor the warranty.

    As far as tethering goes; I'm not saying that $30/mo is not a fair price for phone and tethering data, what I'm saying is that it's not Verizon's price for phone and tethering. If you're saying it's ok to root tether because you're paying them enough, then you're no better than Verizon saying they need more money for it since you both have different valuations on the product.

    They don't like the amount of bandwidth we use tethering because it is more than they budget per user for phone data. As such to maintain the baseline level of services that they sell and charge a premium for, they would need to increase tower densities and use lower oversubscription models, so it's not without cost to them.

    Just because you think it's worth 2cents and Verizon thinks it's worth 4cents does mean it's not stealing if you drop 2cents in the cup and take it anyway.