Notification Light (LED) Color

Discussion in 'Droid RAZR M' started by Spey, Nov 27, 2012.

  1. Spey

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    sherri,
    First let me thank you for reading entire post, and second for detailed replies!

    RE: Statement update to help make a bit more clear (from my earlier post - edited)
    Tools/Enable LEDs Test (still not working)
    * Two references below relate to Factory Razr M LED Notifications
    * It appears to me that the Factory Razr M LED Notifications provide more usability than Light Flow Lite in that
    * Email, Social Networking, Txt Msg, Low Battery, etc. are functional as illustrated in OP#1 running Factory Settings.


    If I understand you correctly, you have the
    Paid Version of this app &
    - are you running on Razr M w/ OTA JB 4.1.1 (if not please confirm device info) ?
    - on your device LED's performance = [Lime does not work] & [Working Include Yellow, Orange, Green, Cyan, Blue, Red, Magenta & White]
    - Tools/All enabled LEDs Test does not fully function testing all colors (only Green - last night my Razr M did this for first time, and continues same Test Result today)

    I had previously browsed over the "add apps" portion of the software, mistakenly assuming this was to "add apps" to the device (like developer advertising for their apps). Thank you for bringing this to my attention, that this is for adding apps to the Notification Menu within Light Flow. I made a bad 1st hand assumption developer was pushing apps, my bad.

    It seems that I get sporadic LED notifications (do not follow the settings I've established) & LED sequences (but only right after power screen on).
    Example-1: I send my self test msg's (email then txt) & one color LED will light, immediately after I press the Power Button, to turn device screen on, I get a quick one run on multiple LED colors, then back to only one LED Notification Color.
    Example-2: I just got txt/SMS and Magenta LED starts flashing (as I have L.F.L. Enabled SMS - Select_duration/Do_not_automatically_switch_off & Method_to_clear_notification/App_entered & Flash_speed/Fast set ).

    At this point it sounds as if I've got some wacko things going on. Hopefully I can get confirmation that others are using this app (on Razr M OTA JB), paid and/or Lite version successfully (possible bug: Tools/Enable LEDs Test - not working). I am going to try a remove/reinstall to see if this may clean up some of my performance related issues.

    Appreciate any comments / constructive critisims
     
    #13 Spey, Nov 29, 2012
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  2. Spey

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    RE: Light Flow

    Anybody know how running this program effects battery life?
    Been running Light Flow Lite for about 2-days now testing various settings, etc. and I seem to have had a noticeable increase in battery consumption. Wondering if coincidental or related?
     
  3. sherri

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    OK. Hope some of this helps. I have run Light Flow (paid) on both my OG Droid And my current phone, which is a Droid RAZR Maxx.

    The RAZR Maxx is rooted, and running a custom ROM. Full Throttle Killer Bean JB 4.1.2......

    I use a custom ROM because it is the only way I can have led blink with screen ON. This being said....the "test" settings in light flow do not work correctly. My phone gets green/yellow/orange/red/blue/cyan/magenta and white. When I use the light flow app to test, only green shows. Remember, blinking with screen on is a function of ROM (only reason I rooted...)If ROM doesn't allow it, screen must be off to see colors.

    So....in the light flow app, I set up the apps and their colors. Called myself from home phone. Screen started blinking (while I was browsing internet) red, telling me of missed calls. Used daughters phone to send SMS. Now alternated red and magenta. Logged in to PC. Sent an email to my optonline account. Added orange led. Sent to gmail, added green. Lights work as I intended. Gmail can be "off" due to customization within the gmail app.

    The "tools/test settings" you see arent bugs....Just don't work! If your phone is stock, you may only see led lights with screen off. (Idiotic move on Googles part...) Send yourself an email, turn screen off, and see what happens....

    Developer is very helpful, so you can ask for his advice.




    Using lightflow since June. Battery is not effected at all.


    Sent from my XT912 using Tapatalk 2
     
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    I haven't had success with the paid version. Most of the time my notification light didn't work at all. I ended up uninstalling.

    The developer was quick to get back to me and suggested I do a factory reset which was more of a hassle than I was willing to go through to get a working app.
     
  5. Spey

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    Greatly appreciate others experiences with this app (some who have got it working satisfactorily, and others not). My goal is not to bash the app, just to figure out if I have a device related issue, bugs in the software, or user related issues. Obviously, I have found some device related issues (like Lime color does not display correctly, possibly others too ...).

    Sherri, appreciate your detailed responses. I would consider this a bug "The "tools/test settings" you see aren't bugs....Just don't work!". When a portion of your software does not work as it was designed, I consider this to be a bug. It has been reported back to me by the Developer that this feature does not work on some devices and they are working on it. I mean no disrespect here, and probably just showing my ignorance related to proper terminology and nomenclature related to app development.

    STATUS - App is still not working correctly.

    I uninstalled Light Flow Light, restarted the device, re-installed Light Flow Light the other day (as referenced in earlier post) in attempt to reset the device & the app to getting working correctly (my thought, maybe I made some bad selection on first install and after becoming more familiar with the app - including developer feedback - that a re-install might solve my issues). Spent a little time going through all the settings to get stuff setup based on what i'd previously learned (no Lime LED, how/when/how-long for indicators to turn on).

    I am finally able to get more than one indicator light color to display, but app still appears to be screwed up (at least not performing to my understanding/expectation).
    Example: I send a few emails & a few txt-msgs as tests.
    Magenta = SMS Setting (during setup)
    Green = Email Setting (during setup)
    Results: Green Led flashes 8-1/2 times in a row then Magenta flashes 8-1/2 times in a row.
    It is my understanding/expectation that the Green & Magenta LED Indicators should alternate one-flash-each.
    The fact the color is flashing 8.5x per color, then switching color (when there are three of each msg. makes absolutely not sense to me).

    Appreciate and constructive criticisms and/or comments.
    thanks,
     
  6. Quick

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    I think you need the full version rather than the lite to get it to cycle faster?
    Does the number if emails/sms matter? Is it just notification that you have one or more.

    [I'm just following along 'cause I'm considering looking for an app like this. Looked at a couple a long time ago and never got back to it]

     
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  7. Spey

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    Full vs. Lite "cycle faster" (this is not really what I'm talking about here (see below), but in the Lite Version the Flash Cycle is not grayed out so would assume this is controllable).
    No, personally I do not care about how many emails/sms with regard to the notification indicator. All I care/expect is that if I have one or more emails that I get a notification light + if I get one or more txt-msg that I get a notification light.
    What is going on is Example: I get an email + txt-msg.
    What happens is Green flashes 8.5 times (slowly) then Magenta Flashes 8.5 times.
    So, I need to sit there staring at the indicator LED for 8.5 flashes (like 10 full seconds) to see if it changes color, then maybe next color (another 10 full seconds, etc., etc.

    Evidently I must not have explained this well enough above, so it goes likes this I send a test email, then a test txt:
    (Green, Green, Green, Green, Green, Green, Green, Green, GreMagenta, Magenta, Magenta, Magenta, Magenta, Magenta, Magenta, Magenta, Magenta, MagGre, Green, Green, etc., etc.)
    I would expect an app like this to directly alternate the LED colors based on the various notification in cue (Green, Magenta, Green, Magenta, etc., etc.).
    Say you throw in a Social Network msg (that's user selected to be Blue): Green, Magenta, Blue, Green, Magenta, Blue, etc.

    Yes being able to control the cycle rate would be a nifty carrot, but I'm just talking about simple basics of notification indicators.

    The fact that the "tools/test settings" does not work (and by developers description should alternate all user programmed colors), seems to indicate there are problems related to "alternating notification colors".

    This morning I had a flashing Magenta indicator after clearing all email, msg's, notifications. The only thing going on with the phone was the battery was below 30% (because I did not charge last night). Interestingly, in "Notification" I have Dark-Blue default selected for Low Battery. Go Figure - seems like bugs everywhere.

    I am still interested in getting to the bottom of the issues here, and if can figure out what the heck's going on will bring the solutions to the OP#1 in this thread for others to learn from.

    I have email exchange ongoing with developer, will post if get things working.
    Appreciate any/all constructive comments.

    Regards,
     
    #19 Spey, Dec 3, 2012
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    Daughter thinks I'm nuts for staring at led, but here goes.....She sent me a text. Flashes magenta. Called myself. Flashes red. Alternates M-R-M-R...

    Sent me an email. Now M-R-O-M-R-O. New text comes in. M-M-R-O-M-M-O. (So far, as hoped and expected....)

    Issue comes when same color us used for different notification. I also use red for low battery. So....my sequence ended up as: RRMMOCC(cyan as a gmail came in)RRMOOCCRRMMOOCCR....

    App works well for me, as it lets me know what notifications to attend to. Colors switch as notifications come in....

    Again, my phone model is different, but I would think app should work similarly....

    Sent from my XT912 using Tapatalk 2
     
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    No. I understood you the first time. You have misinterpreted "cycle" in the reply.

    Cycling through successive colors means changing colors.
    Cycling is not referring to the led going on and off.
    In your example above you are expecting it to cycle through Green, Magenta,Green, Magenta, ... It is doing that. And it is cycling to the next color approximately every 10 seconds (or whatever it is for the lite version) -- if there is more than one color to be notified then a color change takes place approximately every 10 seconds. It flashes one color for 10 seconds, then flashes the next color for 10 seconds, etc. It is working as advertised. If you get the full version then you can configure for a color change to occur approximately every 2.5 seconds (about 1 slow on/off).

    Better?
     
    #21 Quick, Dec 3, 2012
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    Quick,

    Thanks for your follow up.

    You indicate the "full version" works correctly. Please confirm you have personal experience running Light Flow on Razr M and it works correctly? I am interested in "first hand experiences". Please don't read this as I'm being an ass, it's just that it seems there are a lot of "knowledgeable" folks out there who have no first hand experience (they read something works, it's in print - therefore it is ...).

    For me (with respect for what I was expecting) "cycle" meant alternate. Your explanation is CORRECT - basically means alternate (like I was expecting), however, the confusion comes from the "cycle" happening on a time based value instead of a instance based.

    Again for me, from a practical application point of view, seems ridiculous to have an indicator light flash same color multiple times (over a time-based period) before switching. I could understand a LED staying on for a time based period before switching. I would like to be able to glance at my phone, see an indicator light is on, watch for a second and see if second color flashes. To have to sit and count the flashes to know if it is just cycling the same color ... seems to be what would need to be done by your example. Again please let me know your first hand experiences and configuration (possibly your ideas related to how the app should run are better than my expectations).

    IMHO, the provision should allow the LED Flash indicators to alternate one-flash per indication alternating color each flash for various message types that are in cue.

    I have run the Lite version (multiple installs) plus 2 different Beta versions so far without satisfactory results. Currently with both the Beta versions I do not get any indicator LED to light for email (not gMail, but email). Interestingly, on the Lite version I was getting email notifications (set to Green in my examples in earlier posts, but the Lime was not working - Lime confirmed not to work in the Lite version running on the Razr M).

    Again I appreciate any/all constructive comments.

    Regards,
     
    #22 Spey, Dec 4, 2012
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    I have not confirmed it on a Razr M. I was just pointing out that the behavior you described is the expected/correct documented behavior for the lite version. And that the behavior you want (or very close to it) is claimed for the full version. With the lite version you have verified that the app is able to display the colors you have tried and that the app is able to change the colors in response to events. Seems very likely the full app will be able to decrease the cycle time as documented. And highly unlikely that capability would he platform dependent (changing from one color to another in less time).

    Don"t you get 14 minutes or something to try and return? If so,

    Backup your settings from the lite version.
    Uninstall the lite version.
    Buy and install the full version.
    Restore your backed up settings.
    Change or add configuration for the full version (like cycle time).
    Get a return it if it doesn't meet your expectations.
     
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    RE: Light Flow.apk (NOT stock Notification Light (LED) Color)

    Quick,
    As I suspected, no first hand experience with this app running on the device we are discussing (Light Flow, and/or Light Flow Lite running on Razr M). Your last post leads me to believe that you have first-hand experience running Light Flow on a different device (what device, what version of the app, and your experiences positive/negative with regard to proper functionality)?

    If you have any experience at all with Light Flow, I find it hard to believe that you would think a user could download this app, install it, and be able to fully test even 10% of the setting and performance of this app (for proper functionality and or user acceptable features) and post and receive a credit from the developer within 14-minutes. I have been working with this software for over a week now and have barely tapped into the user program-ability of the app. It's an extremely comprehensive software that goes a ways beyond just Notification LED Indicators. I truly hope to have a fully functional version of this software running on my Razr M's through forum participation & am willing to roll up my sleeves and work with the developer directly (then hopefully be able to share back to this forum positive results).

    Quick, please don't get me wrong - I appreciate your advice's & comments, however I think it might be appropriate that when you give advice (in a forum thread specific to a particular device - Razr M in this case) that you state something that indicates your experiences and advice are with a different device, different operating system version, etc ... otherwise, at least in my case, I assume we are talking about the same device, same platform. Programming for each different device, and operating system version many times results different conditions & results. In this case it really seems to me that we are talking about these small differences and how they effect the performance of this particular app.

    Discussions with the developer indicate there is not currently a "full" version, at least not for the Razr M, that has been released to date (user experiences running current downloads may differ, as I have experienced and as others have also experienced). I have already been through two "beta" versions that the developer has sent to me (both would not successfully perform as per my previous posts). Data logging for each sent back to the developer. Yesterday I rec'vd a 3rd Beta version to try, and am testing as I write this reply.

    Please, no hard feelings - & I really do appreciate any/all constructive comments.

    Regards,

    UPDATE-1:
    First trial run of 3rd beta version and notification indicator colors alternate on a 3-second interval (SMS alt. Email - Magenta alt. Green). Looks like may have some data that actually indicates progress. Will be sending data-log to developer. Will look to user setting to reduce the cycle-time to see if can get to one-flash per color.

    UPDATE-2:
    Still running 3rd Beta version as referenced in Update-1 above.
    I have got alternating LED color working, and have tested various settings related to cycle-timing as follows:
    Light Flow/Settings/Notification Method Charge & Battery (two different settings)
    Slow = 4-3/4 flash same color then change (Green, Green, Green, Green, Gre-Magenta)
    Med = 2-1/2 flash same color then change (Green, Green, Gre-Magenta)
    Fast = 1+ flash same color then change (Green, Magenta, Gre-Magenta with a double-color flash every third cycle)
    vFast = 1 flash same color then change (Green, Magenta, Green, Magenta, Green, Magenta with an occasional partial-color flash every 5th to 8th cycle)
    It appears that vFast (Very Fast) is flashing the LED at about 2x the speed (I would guess this would have negative effect on battery life).
    Fast appears to flash the LED at the same rate as stock (so guess no negative regarding battery life & will most likely be my setting of choice).

    I have forwarded this info to developer, and hope to hear back on status of Beta transition to full version for Razr M.
    Look forward to checking out numerous additional features of the app. now that I have basic LED color change dealt with.
     
    #24 Spey, Dec 6, 2012
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