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Discussion in 'Android News' started by WenWM, Oct 3, 2010.
hahaaa nokia. what an irrelevant company
Nokia is an old company in the realm of cell phones. They have seen bad times before and survived. I am betting they see the current market of cell phones dying off and they will reign king once again (did they ever truely reign king before...). Frankly, they are in denial. Unless they do something drastic, they are toast, or will eventually start making Android phones.
This thread made me laugh. When was the last time nokia even put anything out for US consumption, 2004? And even when they were relevant, their phones sucked. So no, I really don't care about nakio, nikoa, oh that's right Nokia.
dont care for Nokia. Android ftw!
I dont care that they dont want Android. I want Android. Thats all that matters. I would like to see Android on a Nokia smartphone tho, just to see what they could bring to the table.
At the same time motorola is a really old cell phone company, yet they managed to come out as a big player with the droid/milestone lineup and more.
If nokia chooses to go another route, more power to them, its gonna be interesting to see what they'll do. If they have another app market, devs will scream, though. Ios, winmo 7, android, webOS, and the latest version of whatever nokia comes up with?
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Sigh... the remarks made by Nokia had nothing to do with the user or the probable popularity of Android. Instead they were talking about the long term profitability of Android for the manufacturer.
What they are expecting is that Android phones will go the way of Windows PC computers, where there will be little to differentiate a Motorola from an HTC. They will have to compete entirely on specs and pricing.
For the consumer this isn't such a bad thing. It means major price and spec wars. For the manufacturer it means marginalized profits, just like in the low end PC market. It also means that Android would probably become one of the biggest, if not the biggest, OS in the mobil market.
The is no telling if this will happen at this point. Each manufacturer is struggling to make sure that their Android offering is unique, offering different front ends and wide variations in design. A good portion of what dissatisfies current Android geeks is nothing more than manufactures trying their best to stay unique and build customer loyalty to their brand.
I see what you're saying, but I think its actually NOT short-sighted to go with an OS like Android.
That's part of the reason PC's became so widespread and Apple's Commodores etc.. became "bleh", is the Multiple manufacturers yet one common OS. It allows developers and such to focus their energies on one maybe two OS's to write software for.
I'm focusing on Motorola, but mainly because their Mobile division was in the pits just prior to releasing phones such as the Droid/Droid X/Milestone (and their other Android models), so it basically turned the Mobile division of Motorola into a profit-making enterprise once again.
As for the other Manufacturers, companies like HTC, who have been making smartphones for a while now, have been making phones with multiple OS's: Windows Mobile, and now Android. I hear they're making a WinMo7 phone, too.
One could say back in the day Apple was far-sighted when they chose not to make yet another IBM-PC clone that would run Microsoft DOS, but Apple only truly came out of their "niche" market when they made the not-so-great-featured-but-highly-polished iPod. Ever since the iPod (and yea, the iMac) came out, people finally started looking their way.
The last time I found Nokia relevant was in 2001 when I had a little tiny cellphone with a pop out keyboard that was the "cool" phone.
Then I moved on in to a Windows Mobile smartphone in 2002, and haven't given them a single thought since.
And yet all your arguments, until you start talking about Apple, are benefits to the consumer and possibly developers, not the manufacturer. The thing to remember is that Android itself is not a money product. Sure, new and exciting right now, the name alone is selling a lot of phones. That won't last forever. Unless the manufactures find a way to come up with a way to make their phones unique and desirable they are going to be competing entirely on the basis of price vs hardware features.
At that point there market will start looking a lot like the netbook market. A constant drive to the cheapest possible piece of plastic with the longest list of features. Not necessarily a bad thing for the consumers; however manufactures make very little per unit on the sales.
Hold in mind I'm not completely sure I agree with Nokia. We are a long way from seeing what the market is gong to do, and the mobile market is volatile and has a very short product life expectancy.
Keep doing the android community a big favor and stay away, less fragmentation = good thing
We do have to remember, in this market there really are no long term decisions. How fast is has each "generation" of networks come out? "Not to mention OS's and smartphones.
Apple can say what it thinks, but windows mobile and palm handsets drove the touchscreen craze in phones to begin with.
Motorola can make a series of short term decisions and wind up being king anyway, because each big "thing" in cellular tech has been short term anyway.
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