Motorola's CEO Blames Apps for Reduced Battery Life; Claims Bur is a Solution

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    During a technology conference today, the CEO of Motorola, Sanjay Jha, indicated that that badly designed 3rd party apps were the primary reason for poor battery life on smartphones, saying that they drain 30-40% of a phone's battery. He also blamed 3rd party apps for most of the returns of smartphones.

    Mr. Jha also claimed that Motorola's UI Skin, Blur, is the best fix for this. He said, "MotoBlur allows us to know, with precision, what battery life you're seeing."

    Here's a quote from the ThisIsMyNext.com article sharing Motorola's future plans.
    It's interesting to see someone in the industry try to figure out a software solution to phone battery life problems. It's ironic though that Motorola claims that Blur could be a solution. Most people I know tend to perceive MotoBlur as just more "bloatware" that causes more of a problem than it solves. What do you guys think?

    Source: Android.net via ThisIsMyNext.com
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    CEO fail.

    Sounds like scapegoating. Low capacity batteries and the nature of Android is the problem behind battery life.
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    Not liking the sound of Blur deciding what I want on my phone for me. My D1 may just be my last Motorola device if this is the direction they are moving.
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    How can anyone bash Moto Mobility for this? They have the best batteries of all Android phones..... They are actually talking about flagging apps, which would cause the devs to rewrite their code to avoid being on the s#!t list, when they rewrite for better battery life ALL ANDROID USERS WIN. Of course he talked up Blur, but that is not the important part of what he said.

    We all know android sucks for battery life. That's what happens when you run emulated code... It is up to the OEM's to DEMAND less power intensive apps...
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    Blur is a fix for Battery Life problems, and 3rd Party apps are the reason for poor battery life?

    Ummm... what? lol, if Blur would correct all my battery problems on the TBolt, I still wouldn't install it.
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    CANIAC!!!!!!!! Aren't you glad the Crapitals got whipped? If we can't win it I have fun cheering whoever plays them!!!

    (Sorry bout he hijacked)

    I do agree that Blur sucks, but Android battery life sucks worse... I'm just glad someone that is high on the Android pecking order admitted that its battery life sucks...
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    Lol, autocorrect.... Sorry bout the hijacking....
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    GB can run code completely natively (just a bit of Android code like a front-end or a bridge to the screen, or however you'd say it), so I think this is a moot point going forward.
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    Oh yes! Though, I would have rather the Flyers (my 2nd team... family from Philly) advanced a little farther than 4 wins... lol

    And yes, Moto sucks. It is nice someone is addressing battery problems, but you can easily see if anything is killing your battery by going into 'Usage'. I got less than a day out of both the Droid and the TBolt, without any one app getting more than 10% drain. Its all about the data, and Verizon's 3G and 4G networks just drink battery life (Sprint's might be worse). If I were to turn data off, I could easily get a few days out of my TBolt, but with it on, its done within 16 hours.

    I just don't get Sanjay's stance on this. Seems like he's barking up the wrong tree. They should be trying to focus on how to make the battery drain so fast while on data. This just screams of trying to pass the blame on something he knows can't be fixed.
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    Put in a bigger stock battery. Or figure out how to get a second battery in there. I mean, look how tiny the D1 battery is, doesn't seem too hard to get a 2nd in there, especially if there's no physical keyboard.

    I love how tablets have options while the phones are noticeably lacking - one choice of stock battery, one choice of SD card...and no optional keyboard like a few tablets have.
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    After being loyal (and satisfied) w/a D1 and X, this trending attitude at Moto has me looking elsewhere for my next device. Most likely HTC, after their statement concerning never locking boot loaders again.
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    Seems fair. But then that Bionic just looks so beastly...
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    I dont know why people hate on the BLUR. I mean yeah its a bit bland but it isnt meant to be pretty either. Its there to make some things easier and I like it, its better than vanilla. I see it as .45 and 9mm, .45 is BLUR and the 9mm is the pansy ass Sense UI. Bad analogy i know but thats how i see it.
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    I think battery technology needs an upgrade. Since Li-ion and Li-poly batteries started going in phones, what great battery breakthroughs have there been?

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    I am so tired of someone else telling me what I can and can't do or should or shouldn't do. We are paying a premium for the devices and service. I'm thinking of jumping ship from Moto with my next device especially since HTC is opening bootloaders and Sense to the Devs. Hope Moto follows suit.:icon_evil:

    The Droid is by far the best device I have owned...because it was stock Android. NO BLUR!
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    So Gingerbread runs code without the need of the Dalvik VM???? That is news to me if it's true. As far as I know Android runs EVERY application under VM. Can you give me a link that shows otherwise? If they have changed it up then battery life should be comparable to the iPhone...
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    Android 2.3 (Gingerbread) NDK now close to pure Native Development - ARM Community

    "While the working model of the NDK was intended to enable specialized tasks, what we found from speaking with many Android application developers, is that they would embed their entire application in a native library. They would create only a very small Java wrapper to handle application lifecycle management and to access API’s not available from native code."

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    It means an application can be written entirely in C/C++/ARM assembly code without need to develop Java or JNI bindings. It provides real freedom for developers to choose between Java and C, opening application development on Android to a further superset of the developer community."
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    iPhone battery? Try chaning that thing.
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    His use of the word quietly worries me

    "... quietly using its platform customizations to collect stats on app usage and how different processes affect processor utilization and battery life"

    What other info is closed source blur quietly collecting so Moto may one day use?
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    Well that is good news. But it still uses VM for some of the code. Once they remove emulation completely from the system we will see far better battery life. Also, many apps will not be updated and will continue to run through the VM. Those apps need to be changed pronto to run natively.... Maybe those are the apps Moto is talking about.