Motorola says original Droid 'doesn't have the hardware' to support a mobile hotspot

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    By Donald Melanson [​IMG] posted Aug 2nd 2010 12:19PM


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    This is the week that the original Droid will be getting the Android 2.2 update, but it looks like that update won't be bringing two of the most oft-requested features: tethering and a mobile hotspot.

    Why's that? While tethering seems to be simply due to a lack of an app that "isn't part of this update," the mobile hotspot issue is a bit more curious -- Motorola spokesperson Brenda Raney says that the Droid "doesn't have [the] hardware to support a mobile hotspot."

    No further explanation than that, but we have a sneaking suspicion that Motorola isn't passing over the feature because of a lack of hardware, but because of too much hardware -- namely, the Droid 2 and Droid X.

    Motorola says original Droid 'doesn't have the hardware' to support a mobile hotspot -- Engadget
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    I've been looking for the original statement from Moto - any luck? Phonescoop.com, who broke the news, doesn't seem to be loading at the moment. I would like some clarification because everyone in the rooting community can tell you that this is total bs. If they aren't going to release it then say so - but to straight up lie to the community is sickening.
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    This is whats on phonescoop..

    News Item Related News Comments
    posted Today, 10:42 AM by Eric M. Zeman
    updated Today, 11:17 AM


    Updated: added reference to update start date in 1st sentence
    Verizon Wireless announced on July 30 that the Motorola Droid would receive the Android 2.2 update starting the week of August 2. Android 2.2 natively supports tethering and Wi-Fi hotspot creation. The Motorola Droid, however, will not offer these features. Verizon Wireless spokesperson Brenda Raney said to Phone Scoop in an email, "The Droid by Motorola doesn't have [the] hardware to support a Mobile Hotspot. With tethering there is no Connection on the PC side that will allow you to tether the device so the answer is that option isn't part of this update." Raney also said the over-the-air update will be pushed to a small set of users first to make sure it works properly. Once that is confirmed to work, Verizon will begin the general roll-out in phases. Android 2.2 offers a wide range of other improvements, including better security, Flash Player Mobile 10.1, voice dialing via Bluetooth, and improved camera performance.
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    yup sure nuff dont ;)....yes so when vzw asks about my data usage im pointing to that statement. Even though while in class wifi tethering powered my laptop and netbook. But hey moto built it they know their device.:D
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    So they left no room for "open to interpretation" - this is just a blatant lie.
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    ...so they're indirectly encouraging root?
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    if you are a rooted droid owner this is more good news.
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    True, for rooters this is no big deal, but I still don't like that they seem to be lying about this. Though they would probably come back with the argument that what the root community is doing will kill the phone over time, or something like that...
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    isn't wifi tethering the same as mobile hotspot?
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    i think there's a technical difference, but don't know what it is... *looks around for someone to explain*

    edit: evidently tethering is ad-hoc, as opposed to a "true" hotspot
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    I would also like to know if there is a difference. Regardless, what most users are looking for is "wifi tethering". It is still upsetting if they are trying to not allow any type of tethering based upon a technical definition. So, if it cannot meet their definition of a "mobile hotspot" then they should still give "wifi tethering".
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    <@cvpcs> the droid1 does not support mobile hotspot
    <@cvpcs> that's true
    <@cvpcs> wireless tether uses a tethering mechanism known as "ad hoc"
    <@cvpcs> it allows the device to tether but doesn't have to act as a router per-say
    <@cvpcs> mobile hotspot uses something known as "infrastructure" mode
    <@cvpcs> and the tiwlan hardware doesn't support it
    <cobra2> the hardware also does not support monitor mode
    <cobra2> but you can slap a big antenna onto the back of it.
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    oh nevermind...ad-hoc...got it
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    True, we do Ad Hoc now, where your typical wifi router does Infastructure
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    so maybe what Moto is saying is technically true, but still a way to dodge this issue... just a thought :icon_eek:
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    We in the forum community and those that are rooted know this not to be true. The Moto Droid has the capabilities to be used as a wifi tether or via usb. However, that may not have been the intention when the phone was created. What is upsetting is that we know that the D1 is capable of these functions and Verizon is denying the phone's ability, just to sell more locked down Dxs and D2s.

    The masses may not be aware of the D1's capabilities. If you figure that of 1 million droids sold only 50k maybe rooted. That leaves another 950k of customers that will upgrade to the D2 or DX on the basis of using the phones for a mobile hot spot or to usb tether. All we can try and do is educate those that are not aware of D1's capabilities. Cause lets face it, we are not going to abandon Big Red for this lie.

    "My office hours a M-F from 9-5" Big Red from the 5 Heartbeats!!!
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    They are correct, we don't have the hardware for infrastructure, but that won't stop you from ad hoc tethering.... or when your D1 busts, get the D2, which will ...
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    Honestly I think its a little deceiving, you can get an app that you can you for tethering, the only problem people have is paying for it. The mobile hotspot i could see not working since you would need to be able to broadcast a signal directly from your phone; which might be possible with a modification of the hardware.
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    Ahh, interesting, I'm glad some of ya'll clarified the difference between tethering and hotspot... I noticed it was different when I used the wifi tethering with my laptop when I was house-sitting a few weeks ago...
    It does seem to be a bit deceiving, but it's apparently true, and definitely a great marketing scheme for the non-rooted masses who want that capability :)
    So, it seems that we'll need a dev to make a Wireless Hotspot app just like we have a Wireless Tether app :)
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    PDANet I've been using for months with the FREE version which simply doesn't let you go to HTTPS sites.

    I just used it successfully at a work event where the wireless connection was terrible.

    The only issue I had was that I had two laptops and would have liked to have both of them using the one cell. I suspect that can be done too but I wasn't sure how.
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