Motorola Never Again

Discussion in 'Motorola Droid Bionic' started by Derekweb, Jun 14, 2013.

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    18 Months of Bionic

    First 6 months switching between 3G, 4G and wi fi non-functional

    ICS update causes lag, hot phone and low battery life

    JB update makes it worse


    Just got an S4 it is Nirvana

    Motorola Never Again
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    Welcome to the gs4 Club :)

    GS4/iPhone5
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    Very sorry to hear of your less than pleasant experience with the Motorola Bionic. The sad part is that for a small subset of the ever massively larger group of owners, problems can often seem to be unique to a particular phone model, manufacturer, version of OS or carrier, however its simply not true in most cases. Forums are places where people go for one of several reasons, but the prime reason people (I'll inject - most typical members - here), seek out and join a forum is because they're experiencing something with their product that seems to be unique to them and they can't figure out or find the solution elsewhere. So what you have is an unusual concentration of people with "issues" with their devices.

    Let me say here, the issues you suffered were real and I am very confident based on your post, frustrating. What I am saying though, is that there was probably one or perhaps a small set of, we'll call them "things" which contributed to the issues you were dealing with, that if properly diagnosed and dealt with directly would have turned your disappointments into triumphs. We have a huge member-set which are very much "Bionic fans", and feel it was if not the best, one of the top two or three phones Motorola has ever made. The following for the Bionic was massive and very tight, and very loyal.

    On to the S4... It's a beautiful phone, gorgeous screen, fantastic camera, feels good in the hands, performs magnificently, and I believe you will be very happy in the long run with your decision to upgrade. We have a great team of members and staff here who are also big fans of the S4, several Moderators, Super Moderators and even some of the Admin own and love it, so support is in place and will be there for you going forward.

    I wish you much success with your new and very exciting Samsung Galaxy S4.

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    Amen! I have the new S4 and it is SWEET!!! To clarify things, I didn't hate the Bionic... But, didn't feel much love for Motorola. Between Verizon and Moto, they managed to make a phone with so much potential fail. Lack of support for most of its existence really put a sour taste in my mouth for Motorola and will never purchase another phone from them again. Not sure how Samsung will be in the future, but so far, I'm impressed. Welcome to the family!

    J
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    Glad that you were happy with your Bionic. I followed this forum very closely and learned a lot about new apps, features, etc. I also learned that many had the same problems I have. Many pointed out that the only way out was to root and use another ROM. Sorry, but I should not have to spend my time being a LINUX admin to make the phone work. Yeah, I can do it, but it should not be necessary.
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    Thanks for the well wishes, however I never owned a Bionic. I was referring to the masses of those who do/did. Yes, there were lots who did have problems and lots who claimed the only solution was to root and ROM, however again as said, there were both a known, and an even larger unrecognized population of those who loved it and never went the way of Rooting or ROMs.

    Please don't misunderstand my reason for posting. I am not in the least trying to discredit you or in any way diminish what you suffered...I said the problems you experienced were obviously frustrating, and LINUX admin or not, sometimes the solution(s) can be very difficult to isolate. What I was trying to say is to lump all of a manufacturer's products into one basket and call it rotten fruit is perhaps a bit over the top (no insult intended). There isn't a manufacturer out there in history that hasn't made mistakes, and some have had HUGE blunders...but even those with huge blunders can also be extremely successful and highly innovative. No adventure that is truly forging a new path comes without risk of thorns and sprains.

    Again, I truly do wish you the best possible experience with your new S4...it's a great phone. I just assisted an associate at my office who was carrying a flip phone...yes, Motorola, and we got her a S4. She's in her 70s and very technically inept, however she's picking up the phone quickly and is loving it. I am there to help her along, no doubt, but once she leaves the office, she's on her own. She has yet to come in and say "my phone froze", or "I couldn't get this app/screen/tool to work". So as a testament to the phone (and the manufacturer), I truly believe the S4 is a Grand Slam.
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    I'm not rooted and the Bionic works fine for me and will probably keep it for the rest of the contract. The company I work for pays my Verizon bill so it's used both for work and home.

    That being said, if I were to chose a new phone today, I'd also go with the S4. Consumer Reports rates it quite highly.
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    I had a Motorola first, an HTC second and a Samsung last. I would do an HTC or Samsung again, not a Motorola.
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    Well maybe I'll be the one turning the lights off here. Been running the carbon ROM and my bionic rocks. Almost as slappy as when I had my original droid and updating a couple days a week with CM. At this point I'm waiting for the next new thing. S4 is already old. Course I never had the issue that others had. Best of luck to all former bionic owners!
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    I generally loved my maxx, it didn't blow my mind, but it was my first Android phone that worked relativity smooth. Hopefully the start leading the pack and get amazing hardware out soon.

    GS4/iPhone5
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    I have no problem with Motorola. I'm going to stretch it here and say imma get the next Motorola phone out. This phone just had a bad release time window. (With the RAZR coming out months after) so of course its not going go have as much support as other phones had. To me, its still an awesome phone. Doesn't lag, i go all day with it (extended battery) and honestly . If Motorola just made this phone the exact same with a bigger battery and screen. I would get it again no doubt.. buuuuut that's just my two cents lol
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    I love my bionic as well actually just picked up another one off eBay yesterday. I love Motorola I've had og Droid also a Droid pro, Droid X, Droid 4, Xoom, and my wife has had Droid X, and now Razr I've tried Samsung not a fan of build quality I know a lot of people love their software too but I'm not a fan of touchwiz I think its very gimmicky but that's just my opinion
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    I completely agree. The way a lot of other brand phones feel, if I drop one it'll shatter in a million pieces lol, Motorola has outstanding build quality. I have dropped this phone countless times and not even a scratch is on the screen
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    I have to agree with you guys. Bionic is a solid well made phone. My launch day bionic lasted until a couple of months ago. It just would not hold a signal anymore. Even after a new sim. But I still paid assurion $100 for a refurbished bionic. I then found a maxx on Craig's and it was a steal so I just had to jump on it. Bionic is now my music/podcast player at work. Its a great phone. I've gone from og droid, to droid 2, to bionic, to maxx. And the wife has a razr. I'm pretty sure my next phone will be the new moto x. I just love motos build quality and I've always been a fan of blur. The important thing Is that you Are happy with whatever phone you have. There are plenty of options for android lovers.
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    welcome to Samsung.. the grass is greener on this side
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    Probably the best comment overall. It doesn't matter which manufacturer or phone you ultimately settle on, just that it's the one which gives you the best user experience. The OP had a disappointing experience and that's not to be denied. That experience was mirrored by others so it wasn't unique to him/her. This means it shouldn't be chocked up to "user error". Every phone will at times act a bit strangely...it's whether it can be quickly resolved or lingers and festers that dictates the users experience.

    Sometimes when you are suffering, it can feel like you are on an island if you can't resolve the issue. We as a community are here for the common goal of getting the best possible user experience from our devices no matter whose they are. Some like me are mostly interested in helping others...some come for the help I and others provide. Both are completely acceptable.

    I only wish that we could have assisted the op and others in similar situations to overcome those issues and truly enjoy their phones.

    Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2
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    You people have very short memories. Remember what Samsung did with the fascinate? They stopped supporting it just months after it released and it was one of the worst phones in recent memory. Then came the Charge, which wasn't much better. Samsung has always had very nice screens, but the rest of the phones are mostly crap. Now, I'm sure the S4 is nice and it seems they've put more effort into the last couple phones they've put out, but I'm not ready to give Samsung my money yet.
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    Agreed. Samsung has done much better recently. It seems like most of the phone companies are stepping up their game
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    Samsung slam dunked it with N2.. And I'm sure plenty happy peeps with S4.... Fascinate is just but a dust in the wind.. Lol
    Either way I agree with FoxKat it's all about the user experience.. If you have no luck with a certain phone it will leave that bad taste in your mouth..

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    Suuperflie brings up a good point, and I know there have been phones which suffered poor reputations from any number of manufacturers. Whether it's reason enough to completely boycott the manufacturer is another question and really is a decision left up to those who suffered through the issues. I think that everyone would love to be able to play Dr. Frankenstein and take parts from the best of all phones, and blend them into one. I would bet that for Radios (cellular, WIFI, Bluetooth), they would choose Motorola most often, and for screens the choice would most likely be Samsung. For build quality (case and MOBO components), it could be Motorola on top followed closely by either Samsung or HTC depending on which phone you use as your reference. For OS, most likely pure Vanilla Google Android (no bloat, overlay, Sense, whatever). For styling, possibly a tie between HTC, Samsung and Motorola.

    I'm going to start a thread...


    What say you? What would be your Frankenstein phone?
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