Moto explains why they locked the bootloader

Discussion in 'Motorola Droid X' started by titans, Jul 14, 2010.

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    Your speaking from a programmers perspective, you standto loose much fun. However, when you purchase a phone you accept the terms of service that is attached to said device. Again like a car..you purchase a car, is it yours? Yes.. is it legal or permissible mess with the regulator? No. Can the car go faster then 120? Yes.. Because its capped. The same with many many other products. Are they trying to force obsolescence? Sure.. just as pc manufacturers do, fashion does, game systems do and just about any technology gadget does. I see it as progress, as they try to attach newer software to better hardware. This leaves room for smart people to create some really cool apps and home replacements apps to do some really neat things. Just remember a company is in business to do whats right for the shareholders, money is what its all about. The very reason droidforums has advertisers and androidcentral and droid-life...
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    Unfortunately because Motorola is a corporation this is the only way to approach the situation. Motorola will not listen to the consumer unless the vast majority of them forgo the purchase of a Droid X for a competing manufacturers device.
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    It's not about apps. You can make an app to run on anything. It is about the ability to control the device fully. Install a custom ROM compiled from the Google AOSP. The fact that the phones are being locked down completely negates the need for the AOSP as it will then become a formality of the software licensing to offer the source even though you can't do anything with it. Get it?
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    Then this should be the goal.. :)
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    As soon as I heard that Verizon wanted to charge for tethering, I figured the end was near... When mods can offer something for free that the carriers want to charge for, the carriers are going to insist on control. Their purchasing power and/or partnership agreements are much more directly and personally important than the customer relationship - unless enough customers make a big enough stink. I personally just stunk up Motorola's email with my complaint and promise to go elsewhere for my next phone.
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    It is one of the goals. The other is to approach it from a legal standpoint to see if there is a licensing violation. If so either Android in general is in violation if so the software issues will have to be rectified to remove the offending code. If the offending code cannot be removed without stopping Android in its' tracks then the licensing has to change or Android ceases as we know it. If the licensing changes that means that the hardware manufacturers will be in violation and will have to open bootloaders and offer an easy root method as well as restore method OR they stop making Android phones. Any of these outcomes works for me. Regardless of the "Do no evil" mantra of Google if there is a problem it needs to be fixed. Period. Innovation at the cost of Freedom isn't worth a damned thing.
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    If all future moto phones will be affected then that's too bad, I was looking forward to the 2ghz phone they were talking about, and seeing custom themes/Over clocking on that baby
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    We shall see, but from the looks of it your wrong. The market is proving that consumers still want this phone. This phone sold out in 2 hours from every best buy and verizon store i know in my county.
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    Just because it is selling out doesn't mean a damned thing. The iPhone 4 sold out and now Apple is facing multiple class action lawsuits due to the antenna issue. They are also holding a press conf. tomorrow presumably for the whole antenna fiasco. Popular does not equal good or right.
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    It doesnt matter if it means damn thing to you... my point is, it means a damn thing for many other people who are buying them in droves. Which translates to $$$ for Motorola. From an ethical point.. I guess thats up for a toss, whether your freemarket capitalist or Interventionist..
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    So you are OK with the Motorola telling you that you don't own your phone and cannot do with it what you please? You are comfortable paying $199 and being treated like a child? Would you mind explaining to me how you made it as far as you have in life? Have you been told when and what to eat under penalty of fine and/or punishment? Have you been instructed on when to inhale and exhale in order to maintain a better cardiovascular system?

    This is more than an ethical issue. It directly effects the consumers ownership, rather perceived ownership of a finished good. If you are incapable of doing anything to the device because it will brick itself I contend that you do not own it and are merely paying the $199 to use it. This whole thing is wrong on so many levels of wrong it is almost incomprehensible. Please for ONE minute think about the implications of all this for future products not only from Motorola but other electronics manufacturers, hell manufacturers in general, as well.
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    Un-fortunately i am handicapped and have not made it far in life, and yes a machine does breathe for me... The implications are simple: What are the consumers going to do to change the trend? As of now, nothing!


    oh and by the way i was joking about the handicapped stuff, but makes you think what if I was.. and how would have i taken it? We should choose our words more careful.
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    So their response is pretty much .... "**** you, all of you. We hooked you bastards with the droid knowing you would expect the same from future phones .... SYKE!"
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    Wouldn't have bothered me one bit. I mean what I say and say what I mean. As for changing a trend bad press has seemed to have forced Apple's hand. The same can be done for the Droid X. If enough tech blogs and mainstream tech media as well as other media outlets pick up on the story that the phone has what is essentially a self-destruct device (if confirmed true) then one can hope that Motorola feels the backlash. That along with a vocal minority in the community most of whom are decision makers or decision influencers amongst their family and peers can also make a difference by steering them away from the Droid X. It has to start small but it can explode, no pun intended, in a hurry.
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    wow.. are you serious? I see no gotcha gimmicks.. no phone is ever sold with the promise of bootloader accessibility. Why do you feel entitled to change a products intent, just buy another phone.
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    Amen.. I agree with that. Makes me wonder why the Nexus1 never took off! Perhaps this weighed in on those board meetings.
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    Nexus One failed because of a poor marketing and distribution setup. I believe Google stated that within the last 45 days.
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    Ok so I read this whole post and haven't seen it mentioned. Apple right now is facing a major class action (not for the antenna) for the lock down on their devices. Not allowing 3rd party apps. Essentially telling the users what they can and cant do with their phone. If the courts side against apple, I see Motorola turning face very quick.

    Hate to say it but it might make an iPhone actually worth buying again. :icon_eek:
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