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Model Name - A853, A855 or something else?

Discussion in 'Motorola Milestone' started by holysin, Jan 18, 2010.

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    Hi there.
    I live in Brazil and bought a Brazillian Milestone. After installing the motorola tools I found out my Milestone's model name is A853 (an Icon showed up on my desktop that says A853 Milestone, and that's also the model on the Brazillian website).
    Now I'm wondering what's the European model. I know the Droid is A855, so is there an A854?

    I ask this because I'm worried about updates. Motorola is obviously the Droid, since it got the 2.0.1 update a while ago. Maybe it's because the Droid has sold more than the Milestone, maybe it's because Verizon is pressing them harder them anyone else. It doesn't matter.
    The 2.0.1 is said to be coming soon for the Milestone. But my fear is this: If the Brazillian milestone is different than the European, it's possible that the European update won't be compatible with my Milestone. Therefore it'd take even longer for me to get an update.
    If that happens, it'll probably happen with everything else: The 2.1 update and further updates.
    Also, if they're different, that mean the Brazillian Milestone would have to be rooted separately from the European one. For a platform that's supposed to be easily rooted, it sure is taking a long time for it to happen. And this sucks a lot to me, since the Android Market that I can access only contains free apps, and Market Enabler is only usable on a rooted device.

    There is one evidence that points to them being different: Moto's website claims the Brazillian Milestone is a quad band GSM (850/900/1800/1900) and tri band 3g: (850/1900/210), while the European has 900 3g instead of the 850.
    I have yet to confirm this, since my service provider uses the 850 3g band in my city, but I haven't seen the 3g icon yet. I don't have a data plan yet, so I'm always on wifi (APNDroid), but my old N95-3 did connect through 3g (it supports 850).
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    I highly doubt there's an a854 milestone somewhere... but you do have a point, because milestones sold in different areas can have different 3G frequencies
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    Any update on this? I'm about ready to purchase an A853 on EBAY and want to make sure it works on AT&T 3G here in Austin TX.
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    i'm trying to purchase this device, i'm in the united states right now. do you recommend this for me. i'm currently with at&t. i went to the brazil site to try to purchase it. how much is it in U.S. dollars? your help would be apprciated
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    Found via google so sorry for the bump..

    A854 is the non droid CDMA US version of the milestone.
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    How do you check? I have a Telus Milestone, and my phone wasnt working correctly so I flashed a 2.1 telus sbf a853 but im not sure. Is there any way to check?
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    ALL Milestones (GSM) are A853 models, ALL DROID's (CDMA) are A855 models.

    There is 2 different Milestones available:

    Under you battery is the data tag. Look for the FCC ID, the last digits tell the tale:

    FCC ID: IHDP56KC5 = Quad-Band GSM (850/900/1800/1900) and Tri-Band 3G (850/1900/2100) North American frequencies

    FCC ID: IHDP56KC2 = Quad-Band GSM (850/900/1800/1900) and Dual-Band 3G (900/2100) European frequencies


    Telus Milestone (A853 - FCC ID: IHDP56KC5), WILL work on AT&T, it WILL have 3G and HSDPA (3.5G), it also can access ALL market apps.

    When you get a Milestone and plan to use it on AT&T, make sure if has the FCC ID: IHDP56KC5 which is Quad-Band GSM (850/900/1800/1900) and Tri-Band 3G (850/1900/2100) North American frequencies. I would suggest unlocking it when you are in range of the AT&T Network. Mine was unlocked while within the AT&T network and all the APN data and such was set automatically, data worked immediately after it was unlocked.
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    Ok, don't take my word for it :)

    I'm not saying it's actually different hardware... just that motorola has it labeled differently. I'll get the FCC id when it gets here.


    I've seen the A854 milestone referenced on the motorola forums as being sold in mexico as well. :)
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    Notguy is correct. The A854 Milestone is sold by cell south (and is CDMA), and in mexico as well from what I have read. The cell south version has the unlocked bootloader, not sure about the mexican variant.

    The only reason it is called the Milestone is Verizon has the rights to the Droid name for use on their phones only.
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    FCC Id IHDP56KC1


    *edit* We may have one more slight difference... Top half of the Otterbox case for the droid doesn't fit correctly. The slots on the back of the screen are moved slightly. (and yes.. I have it turned the correct way :) )
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    Yes, I can confirm beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Milestone A854 IS the same hardware as Verizon's Droid A855 but the model number is changed to differentiate the models since Verizon has the baseband locked down to their own data settings and the A854 is generic for multiple carriers to use.

    I have an A854 in hand, as well as an A855, so believe me I know :) I've even flashed the A854 software over an A855 and it worked to remove all of Verizon's programming!
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    Cellular South Flex File for A854?

    I do have the new MILER A854 sbf firmware file for the A854-5, but I was wondering if someone out there who got it thru more normal channels might happen to have the supporting .hs flex file for CES (Cellular South).
    Any carrier's flex file would be just fine, but I believe that at present CES is the only one to have released the A854 model, even though NTelos is slated to do so as well very soon.
    Thanks in advance!!!
    ...and PLEASE contact me if you have that flex or any other for the generic unlocked A854 model.
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    The name DROID is licensed by Lucas Films/Arts and Verizon has to pay for it's use. Motorola rebranded the moto Droid A855 as the A854 and named it the Milestone for smaller/regional CDMA providers so they would not have to pay Lucas Films for the use of the name DROID. If the DROID name had stayed with the phone, the smaller/regional service providers wouldn't have agreed to use the device nor could they afford to pay for the name's use.
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    Yes there is a Milestone A854, i have one here in Alaska through ACS (Alaska Communication)

    Take care
    Randi :icon_ banana:
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    Since I've found a group that has the A854 finally, bad news we don't get 2.2!! Is there anyone who has gotten a successful ROM of 2.2 running on their phone?

    Thanks in advance,
    Patrick
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    Yes, any of the 2.2 based roms in Rom Manager have worked for me. Ive used Bugless, Liquid Frozen Yogurt, ect.
    Easy as can be.
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    i have a verizon droid the sticker in the battery tray says A855 but when i open it on my computer it says A853. Anyone know what the deal is with that? also i was given the phone it is stuck at the bootloader 2C.7C ok to program scrren. i can flash spr recovery onto it but have not been able to sbf it back to stock or update.zip onto sd card. plaease any info would be greatly appreciated i am about to throw the phone in the garbage
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    2C6C should be the standard bootloader for any of the A854/A855 models to the best of my knowledge this is not yet a later one. It may have been someone tried crossflashing an incompatible model, but I don't recognize 2C7C from anything. Make sure you are using RSD Lite 4.9 and the newest drivers 4.9.0. Here is most everything you should need. Make sure to install the reg file too (USBflag_android). The firmware is the latest Verizon A855 release. Good luck.

    RSD Lite 4.9.rar
    Handset_USB_Driver_32_v4.9.0.msi
    Handset_USB_Driver_64_v4.9.0.msi
    usbflag_android_8(20).zip
    VZW_A855_FRG22D_QSC6085BP_C_01.43.01P_SW_UPDATE_01.rar
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