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    Anyone know of a good memory mangement app? My phone seems to start apps in the background on its own and I'm looking for something that would allow me to prevent things from starting on there own. The advanced task killer works but I'll be honest I'm lazy :) and want it done automatically. :icon_ banana:
     
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    what apps are you referring to? and you know its really ok to let things run in the background on the droid
     
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    Voice dialer, settings, facebook and other random apps. I'll stop a process and 3 seconds later its running again. i use advanced task killer but i constantly have to kill things or my phone runs slow.
     
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    <sigh> It never ever ever ends.
     
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    Well, you'll have to stop being lazy, take some initiative and read the countless existing threads on this topic. It's way beyond a well-beaten dead horse (on every Android discussion site for that matter).
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    First, I meant by lazy I didn't want to have to manually kill a bunch of random tasks over and over. It gets old.

    Second, Maybe you should have asked if I looked this up before you made your comments. I did look this up but nobody gives a straight answer just a bunch of comments.

    "Don't use a task killer, you dont' need it."
    "Just use a task killer."
    "Just root, uit's better."
    "Don't root, stock is fine."
    "The phone handles memory fine, there's no need to worry about it."
    "You need to stop thinking about windows and think more like linux."

    Well being a noob how am I supposed to figure out what is the right answer, without asking? Sorry if I'm beating a dead horse but when I pay $400 for phone and I constanly have to manage it, I get a little frustrated.
     
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    I agree with you in principle. frequently I find apps running that I never initiated in the first place. I have a few on my ignore list so they don't have to reboot themselves when initiated. I don't have a problem with taking a little extra time to use the app-killer. I just wish the unneccessary wouldn't kick on in the first place. Let me try a different train of thought, is there a way to control what does and does not initiate on it's own (good example, corporate calendar, which I never use and would love to dump from the phone all together)... while just keeping it simple...
     
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    ..ooh mmyyy god how many of these threads do we have to see every day??

    DO NOT WORRY ABOUT APPS RUNNING IN THE BACKGROUND. THE OPERATING SYSTEM WILL START THEM UP AND THEN THEY LAY DORMANT IN THE BACKGROUND UNTIL THEY ARE NEEDED. THEY AUTOMATICALLY START UP SO THAT WHEN AND IF YOU DO NEED TO USE THAT PARTICULAR APPLICATION THEN IT WILL OPEN UP MUCH QUICKER THEN IF THE OPERATING SYSTEM DIDN'T HAVE IT LAYING DORMANT IN THE BACKGROUND. THEY USE VERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRY LITTLE MEMORY WHEN THEY ARE IN THE BACKGROUND AND THEY USE ALMOST NOOOO CPU RESOURCES.

    The reason your phone is running slow is because YOU KEEP TRYING TO KILL THE RUNNING APPS!! This causes the operating system to have to load them up again which consumes cpu power.
     
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    Ok then why when i don't kill the apps its runs like crap, but as soon as I do it will work?
     
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    Yeah tell me about it. Let the OS manage itself. Memory is managed in Android very similar to how it is managed in Linux. It fills itself up as much as it can and caches as much as it can. When memory is needed for something new the cache is dumped first and then unnecessary and empty apps killed by the OS. The more you "manage" your phone the worse things are going to get. IF you are experiencing some kind of massive slow down I dare say it may be a 3rd party app that you downloaded that is misbehaving.

    I have tested this ad nauseum on my phone. Auto killers, process killers, manual task killing, less or more aggressive memory management. I have come to the conclusion that after lots of FC's, headaches, etc... that Android in its' stock form (NO memory manager, task/process killer, battery manager) performs the best overall.

    EDIT: A better explanation of what those little numbers mean

    Finally, along the bottom of the screen are some obscure numbers. If you know how to interpret them, this gives you a lot of information on the memory status of your device:

    * Avail: 38MB+114MB in 25 says that the device has 38MB of completely free (or likely used for unrequired caches) memory, and has another 114MB of available memory in 25 background processes it can kill at any time.
    • Other: 32MB in 3 says that the device has 32MB of unavailable memory in 3 unkillable processes (that is, processes that are currently considered to be foreground and must be kept running)
     
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    so stop doing it... you don't need it, lol


    The only time you would need to kill a task is if it was draining your battery very quickly and the cause was an app acting up. IF that every happened, you would be better off uninstalling the app.
     
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    Ok. So i took some of the advise out there. I removed the task killers and just let the phone handle things on it's own. It seems to run better most of the time but it still seems laggy/buggy. Can anyone point me to some tips on screwy apps i should uninstall or anything I can do to help it run better? Maybe it's just me but I figured this phone would smoke and so far I'm not really impressed.
     
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    The way you were treated here, I am surprised you bothered to ask another question.

    The guy couldn't find a straight answer, and you treat him like a bunch of jerks. Some of you need to get lives.
     
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    this is your first post so i would not expect you to understand. Just come and check by the forum once a day for a week and you will know EXACTLY why we respond the way we do. One of these threads pops up about 10x per day and it gets irritating when people dont use the search.

    There could be many reasons why your phone is not running smoothly. If you have wifi turned on and you are not in a wifi hot spot then every time you turn on the screen the phone will try to search for a wifi signal. So turn that off if you dont want to use wifi. If you have latitude turned on then that may cause some lag and a significant amount of battery drain. Many other things can cause your phone to slow down, live wallpapers, replacement homes, news/weather widgets, widgets that need to utilize 3g often, can all cause your phone to slow down because they are doing processes in the background and especially right when you turn your screen on.

    And one thing you need to realize is that the DROID can multi task so its doing many things at once and so its processing power is spread around to each application. While an iPhone or an iTouch can only run 1 thing at once which means all of their processing power is dedicated to that one application that is currently open, which results in smother operation. Not to mention the DROIDs screen resolution is twice of that than an iphone or an itouch. Hope that helped you understand why the DROID runs the way it does.
     
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