LG charger on a razr

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    So I forgot my charger at home and I'm at a friends house and I'm using an LG charger that fits the razr.
    Is that okay?

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    I use my old LG chargers for my Droid RAZR with no ill-effects. It's just a usb standard charge voltage, if it puts out less or more milli-amps, it will just vary the charge time.
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    I've used an LG charger since I got the phone and its been fine. The usb cords that come with the phone are way too short
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    Any micro-USB charging cable is fine.

    Sliced from my RAZR
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    All above responses are for the most part correct, however there can be undesirable effects due to using non-approved third party chargers;

    1. As mentioned, the charge rate may be either less or more
      • If the charge rate is less
        • It will take longer to reach a full charge
        • It may actually never reach a full charge
          1. If the charging circuitry isn't able to convert the output voltage and current from the sub-par charger into the necessary voltage and current that the charging circuitry needs
          2. If the charging circuitry is fooled by the lower voltage or amperage and interprets the lower values as an indication the battery is fully charged before it has actually reached full capacity
      • If the charge rate is higher, it could result in any number of possibilities including;
        • Charging faster (taking less time)
        • Battery heating up (which shortens the life of the battery)
        • Damage to the battery or the charging circuitry
    2. The phone may exhibit strange symptoms while using it, such as
      • Scrolling erratically
      • Selecting areas on the screen which are not where it is being pressed
      • Activating other apps or functions when trying to scroll or select something else
        • These symptoms are often called "Ghost Typing".
    3. Permanent damage to either the battery and/or the phone's charging circuitry and/or the actual phone

    It should also be noted that it is a violation of your warranty terms to use a non-approved charger. Approved chargers will either have the Motorola Logo and be specifically designed to work with the Motorola Droid Razr/Maxx, have the Verizon logo and be marketed by Verizon specifically for the Razr/Maxx. Also, using the supplied USB cable in combination with a computer or an approved battery-powered "booster" are generally within the description of an approved charge method, since both will supply highly filtered and stable charging voltage and amperage.

    If the battery or phone should fail and it can be determined that the failure was as a result of using a non-approved charger, Motorola and Verizon reserve the right to refuse coverage under the warranty and only offer the option to pay for repair or replacement. In other words, if you choose to use a third party charger, even if one from a competitor's cell phone, you take on full responsibility for any ill effects it may result in.
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    It's not a Razr, but for my X I have used almost every night, a generic wall chargers I used to charge my BB. In the Hummer, I use a Verizon charger that was sold by Verizon for my BB. On occasion, when traveling and nothing else available, I have used my Nook plug in wall charger. For charging via a computer I use an older BB cord, Moto cord and/or generic cord. Not even sure where my Moto wall charger is that came with the X.
    I have had the X replace a few times for warranty and not once has Verizon ever asked what charger or cord I have been using. And two replacements were for screen problems. (No use to mention the Asurion replacement.)
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    Bull ****

    That vz logo...thats just verizon way of saying' i cost more cuz i hav vz logo'

    Micro usb is micro usb.
    There is no way to tell if a failure was due to a non vz charger cable being used.
    Refusal of warranty claim due to third party chargers is against law.
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    Believe what you wish, you're going to anyway.

    But for the rest of you who understand that a warranty is a bilateral contract, here's a direct copy from the RAZR users manual, page 57 (and yes, I've read the entire thing).

    Third Party Accessories;

    Use of third party accessories, including but not limited to batteries, chargers, headsets, covers, cases, screen protectors and memory cards, may impact your mobile device’s performance. In some circumstances, third party accessories can be dangerous and may void your mobile device’s warranty. For a list of Motorola accessories, visit www.motorola.com/products

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    Do you have a source to backup this statement? If so, I'd be interested in reading it because I don't believe it. If a manufacturer is going to provide a warranty for their product, they have the right to make the terms.

    Aside from the OP's original question, why not just use the charger that came with the phone and avoid any (potential) headaches? It's not like you're paying extra for one when you buy the phone.
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    Its law. That stament from vz is the same thing any co prints up on their products ...
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    I used a LG cord that plugs into the wall not computer on a BB Storm 2 then on a Droid 2 now on my Droid Razr with no ill effects even when they run all the way down. Like the charging cord???

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    My maxx does a lot of these things when I use the provided charge cable lol... go figure

    sent from my RAZR MAXX
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    When speaking of 3rd party chargers and warranty ...this only applies if the charger is non cell phone type charger. Otherwise warranty. Has to cover it. They as a company can not force you to buy their name brand products.
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    This is an interesting question. Unless you are referring to something in the article I'm not seeing, I'm not so sure the interpretation is a broad as you read it ("this only applies if the charger is non cell phone type charger") . As far as I can see, what the relevant part of the article says is:

    "Tie-In Sales" Provisions

    Generally, tie-in sales provisions are not allowed. Such a provision would require a purchaser of the warranted product to buy an item or service from a particular company to use with the warranted product in order to be eligible to receive a remedy under the warranty. The following are examples of prohibited tie-in sales provisions.

    In order to keep your new Plenum Brand Vacuum Cleaner warranty in effect, you must use genuine Plenum Brand Filter Bags. Failure to have scheduled maintenance performed, at your expense, by the Great American Maintenance Company, Inc., voids this warranty.

    While you cannot use a tie-in sales provision, your warranty need not cover use of replacement parts, repairs, or maintenance that is inappropriate for your product. The following is an example of a permissible provision that excludes coverage of such things.

    While necessary maintenance or repairs on your AudioMundo Stereo System can be performed by any company, we recommend that you use only authorized AudioMundo dealers. Improper or incorrectly performed maintenance or repair voids this warranty.

    Although tie-in sales provisions generally are not allowed, you can include such a provision in your warranty if you can demonstrate to the satisfaction of the FTC that your product will not work properly without a specified item or service. If you believe that this is the case, you should contact the warranty staff of the FTC's Bureau of Consumer Protection for information on how to apply for a waiver of the tie-in sales prohibition.


    My read of this? Motorola is not requiring you to buy anything as they supply a cable and charger adapter with the purchase. Whether or not using another cable or charger would void the warranty, it would seem that would depend on if the phone would work properly with the cable and charger you selected. If it doesn't, it may not possess the required specifications and in that case it would seem that it could void the warranty. Which is the warning FoxKat was highlighting when he said "All above responses are for the most part correct, however there can be undesirable effects due to using non-approved third party chargers" and "If the battery or phone should fail and it can be determined that the failure was as a result of using a non-approved charger, Motorola and Verizon reserve the right to refuse coverage .."

    This seems accurate since the article states you can include tie-in provisions "if you can demonstrate to the satisfaction of the FTC that your product will not work properly without a specified item or service." Since the Razr's manual says use of other chargers "may impact your mobile device’s performance. In some circumstances, third party accessories can be dangerous and may void your mobile device’s warranty." it seems reasonable to assume they have demonstrated this to the FTC on some level.
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    It's true Motorola & Verizon can't require you to buy or use their cables or chargers, but it's also fair warning to say that all chargers may not be equal, be aware of signs of trouble and to say you are best off to use the supplied cable and charger. If you don't, and the problem can be shown to come from using one that has and improper or incorrect configuration, you may void your warranty.

    Having said all that, I - like most the posters here - have used a variety of microUSB cables without issues. But with the plug in the wall charger, I'm always leery since I don't know the specs. I don't know if there's special circuitry in the chargers or not. Maybe someone smarter than me can answer that....uh, FoxKat???
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    SallyC, you said quite a mouthful, and I agree with your interpretation.
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    Right...but it must be proved, that said 3rd party charger IS the cause.

    Put it this way...car manufacturing co.s WILL tell you vehicle warranty will be void if you have your vehicle serviced by yourself...but, if manufacturers service procedure is followed, and you have records of what, when, and parts...youre warranty cannot be denied.

    So for this case, chargers, may not all be the same, dont use you psp charger to charge your phone, but a cellphone charger. Any micro usb cable can be used. They ( the cables) are universal.
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    Imagine this conversation with Tech Support:

    You: My phone gets hot and my battery no longer holds a charge.

    Tech Support: Is this a recent problem? Do you use the factory-supplied charger?

    You: No. I lost my Motorola Razr charger two days ago and had to use one of my old BlackBerry chargers.

    Tech Support: The manual states to only use approved chargers. That is not one of them. Your warranty is now void.

    You: But the law says you have to prove it caused the problem.

    Tech Support: Sorry, there's nothing we can do.

    You: But, but, but.....

    Your only option at this point is to take them to court. Are you really going to go through all that expense and hassle, possibly going without a phone while you're trying to prove your point? And even if you prevail, most likely all you'll be awarded is another phone.

    I go back to my original question. Why not just use the charger supplied when you purchased the phone and avoid the fuss? The phone is not any cheaper if you try to purchase one without it.
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    I use an LG charger with my Droid Incredible that is from my old LG Dare. The HTC cable that came my phone got the parts that spring out stick and now it won't stay in and won't even charge my phone unless I hold it in. Some cables will cause a message to pop up saying "this cable isn't made for this phone and could damage it, please remove immediately" or something similar. But I don't get that with the LG cable. But as long as it's the Micro USB cable it should be compatible with your phone as almost all Android based smartphones use Micro USB.

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