Launcher 8

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    Is this a safe app to use? It is a windows phone 8 overlay that looks awesome but It has numerous permissions that could jeopardize your contacts, information and many other things. Does anyone feel this way? Otherwise I'd love to install it.
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    Have it.

    Using it.

    Really like it.

    My guess the permissions that pertain to Contacts have to do with the live tile for Contacts. It displays their pic randomly in different squares within the tile and cycles through all of your contacts.
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    I understand part of the contacts issue but to allow it to change or delete contacts and change dialed phone numbers concerns me. Seems a treasure trove of users' info is available to them to use in any way they desire. The info to which they have access could hold usernames and logins plus passwords, etc. The Droid Forums person who reviewed it never touched on the permission s aspect. I did view his review. In looking over my installed apps, none require anywhere near the amount of permissions that this one does. Just sayin'...
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    Same here. New to android and saw this app. Looks great but the permissions just seems unreasonable to me. It even allows the app to make calls without my aproval!!?? Is this even possible? If so: this could be a very expensive app! Anyone who has experienced this?
    To sandiegodave: did you install the app? Pleased?
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    How would you change a contact in the app if it doesnt have permission to do it??

    Some of these permissions are so the app can function on its own the way it was intended. If it didnt it would just be an overlay of shortcuts.

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    Concerns regarding Launcher 8 permissions

    No, Objektor, I didn't install it nor do I intend to. According to very recent articles, the biggest threat to Android's "Open Source" operating system is Asia. Thugs over there have targeted Android. Android is easy for them to hack and manipulate. Apps in the "App Store" are trusted until they screw up, then they get banished from the store. However, imagine how much damage they could inflict before they are kicked out. On the other hand, the Iphone and Windows Mobile operating systems are very secure compared to Android, hence the thieves focusing on Android. A SMS trojan virus has done an incredible amount of damage, costing users HUGE expenses: Android Under Attack: Malware Levels for Google's OS Rise Threefold in Q2 2012 . I won't be fooled by some slick looking app that requires unreasonable permissions. What could possible be the purpose of the app placing phone calls from your phone??? Imagine the costs to you if that "permission" evolves into something akin to the SMS virus attack? Give it a little time and I think we'll have the answer to that question. However, all that nonsense will not dissuade me from continuing to use Android phones nor will it cause me to buy an Iphone or Windows phone. I switched to Android after I got fed up with the Windows Mobile OS when 6.5 was released. What a piece of underachievement that "upgrade" was! Prior to that I was a devout Windows Mobile user going all the way back to my first HP Ipaq pocket PC, before smartphones were invented. By the way, if my link to the SMS article gets scrubbed from my reply, go to a browser and type in: Android Under Attack and you'll find it. Please read that article and other related articles but most importantly, be careful what apps you install!
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    An overlay of shortcuts. That's what I thought it was. It isn't running wp8 is it? It's using the apps on my phone as they are with the same layout, I presume. So it doesn't have to change a contact f.e. and hence no permission to do so either. Maybe I'm just not getting it, so please explain.
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    Thanks for your informative reply. It's amazing to me that so many people have installed the app ( according to the reviews) and happy with it and almost no complaints or even questions about the permissions. But I have to admit: no stories about phones being hijacked by the app either resulting in enormous phonebills. Just a matter of time maybe? Anyway, I will try to do some more 'research' before even considering to install the app, no matter how nice it looks.
    I'm still on iOS (ipad1, no problems) but need a new phone since my nokia n71 died after 6 years. Not totally against iPhone but restrictions, policy and price do not attract me. WP8 looks pretty nice, more acustomable, logical with the hubs, secure ( for what it's worth), expendable memory, removable battery and a few more phones to choose from. I know Nokia is almost down and out but I have to admit that I was pleased with my old one lasting for 6 years!
    So WP8 or not WP8 (thus android), that's the question. Any more advice/ views are welcome.
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    Its not just an overlay. Its an app that you can make calls from, you can have direct dial tiles, so it would need to access you contacts for that and be able to access the phone. Just like it has live tiles for email, so it needs access to your email. Just because an app needs access to certain functions of the phone doesn't make it malicious. You have to look at what is is doing and what its intended for. You can always email the dev to inquire about permissions.

    This subject has bee broached before. Someone wonders why an app needs "x" permissions, but when you look at what its doing it in fact does need those permissions to do what the app is supposed to do.
    Home replacements need a lot of permissions because they "replace" your current home app, which has many permissions. They are not overlays, but fully functioning apps on their own.

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    Thanks for the explanation so far. Ok, so it is not just an overlay. Does this mean aswell that the app contains stuff like 'peoples hub', 'music hub' and the like?
    And do apps like calender f.e. looks like the wp8 calender or like the original android calender? Than it's almost a WP8 o.s.?
    I do get your point that a home replacement app needs the permissions that the original home app has. What I don't understand is why it wants permission to make calls without my aproval. I don't think the original home app has that permission. I certainly hope so anyway. I checked with some other home replacement apps and some of them want that permission and some of them don't. It might have to do with some functions they can or cannot perform than? I don't know. It just made me suspicious.
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    It doesn't have the "hubs" I don't think....I ran it for a little bit, but I jump around alot. Looking at the permissions for my stock homescreen app, it can make calls directly to phone numbers. Its under things that can cost you money or something to that effect. If that's the same permission as this launcher, then I am guessing its because it is because of the live phone tile. Not 100%, but its saying you press the tile, it dials without asking if that's ok. Its not like the app is making calls to china at 3am to see what the weathers like. It appears to just be there so it doesn't have to ask you if its ok for you to make a call using the app.
    If you're still concerned just move on to another launcher. Some of this is confusing in how the permissions ar written I do know that.

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    hey guys got a question on this, I got it working pretty much the way I want except one thing, when I go to update the contact Tiles, it fails every time.

    Any help is appreciated..

    DJ

    I am using this on my Droid 3 ...

    EDIT: Sorry guys I figured it...

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    Thanks for taking the time to share your view. Especially the way things/permissions are written is confusing to me. Can understand it in multiple ways. Your explanation about the dialing without asking is plausible. I just didn't get it that way.
    I'm new to android. Bored with the restrictions in iOS so willing to try something different and more customisable. Esp. tile-size and pinning files, not only apps, to homescreen. I like the looks of the Launcher8 app but found some other apps that can do the same trick in a way. I'm just not used to all the possibilities!!
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    help with live contacts


    I am having issues with the live contacts too. it only shows one contact that i added manually. the rest of my contacts are from facebook but don't show up in the animations. is there a way to manage permissions so i can give it access to my contacts? thanks, any help is appreciated!

    EDIT: removing the tile and putting it back didn't work for me. neither does updating the contacts
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    I have this - my experience thus far:

    I've tried Tile 8, Live Tiles and few other paid/free launcher apps. I hate to say it, but this the best I've found, and that's not saying much. They all seem glitchy. Stock GS3 on VZW, btw.
    THE GOOD:
    It really LOOKS like W8. To me it's the best looking so far, the most true to W8. The spacing of the tiles is perfect, no tweaking required as with widget-maker apps like UCCW, and aesthetically it blows TileLauncher out of the water.
    Many colors to choose from when setting the theme color.
    It allows you to totally HIDE the status bar, and I love any launcher that gives me that ability.
    It's free!
    The 'edit' mode works very well, reminds me of IOS in that respect, all the tiles start to float and you can drag them around. However, other tiles don't move out of the way for you, so it can get cumbersome.
    The live tiles seem to do a fairly decent job in terms of refreshing.
    You can customize the app drawer from list to grid, and even change the font color of icon names within the drawer.
    You can create a a tile for any application you have.
    The tiles are quite responsive, even the camera/Google Now.
    There seems to be no limit to the number of tiles you can add, and the pages scroll only vertically. No multiple home screens.

    THE BAD:
    The only tiles larger than 1x1 are the Dial, Clock, Contacts and Play Store tiles, which are native when you open the launcher. According the to dev, you can resize ANY tile. Editing tiles gives you options for both resizing and changing the color, and you are able to select new colors/sizes and save the change. But they don't stick. So you are stuck with a few larger tiles, and the rest are all 1x1.
    When adding a widget as a tile, the tile will be the same size as the widget itself.
    The Play Store tile, which comes native, does not work, at least for me. You can add the play store widget or create a new tile for the play store app, but you're stuck with the 1x1 layout.
    When trying to change the wallpaper for the lock screen, the app F/Cs.

    Overall it's the best I've used. But again, they all seem to suck, this one just sucks the least :) Were I able to actually resize and recolor any tile I wanted, I would pay $5 bucks for this app.
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    My experience with Launcher8 has been a little different.

    I've had no problems resizing tiles to larger than 1x1 and them staying that way. I have tiles for apps, folders and contact shortcuts larger than 1x1 and they stay.

    I think one thing that is required at this point in the app's life is to delete all the tiles that come preloaded and start fresh. I even think one of the mods here suggested this.

    With today's update they broke being able to change the lockscreen wallpaper. I just changed mine yesterday and then updated today and noticed it will FC if you try to change now. I'm sure they will fix this in a new update soon.

    Otherwise I agree with everything in the above post. I can't explain why they are having problems with resizing tiles but if someone is considering this launcher they might want to know that everyone (or every device) is not having similar problems.

    EDIT: One problem I ran into is trying to save theme. I tried to do that today and it FC. First time I tried it so not sure if today's update broke that too.

    One word of caution for new users: block out some time to set this up from scratch as it does take some time to add tiles and tweak.
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    Thanks. I did un install the app, re install it, delete all pre loaded tiles and start from scratch. At this point I am still unable to re size tiles or change their color. So sad about that. Dunno if it matters, in fact I'm sure it doesn't, but I'm running JB 4.1. Curiously when I try to link to the developers site from the play store, the site is invalid. I emailed them, but I'm not sure with the language barrier how things will go from here. I really like this app, but I'm gonna stop using it for a while. Maybe in a few months things will be normal. If anyone out there has a GS3, please share your experience?
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    Update

    So after the 1/8 update my issues have been resolved. I re installed the app today and viola - I was able to re size and change the color of the tiles, and disable/change the lock screen. I'm very, very pleased.
    This has become my favorite launcher.
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    Cool. Glad it's working now.

    I'm really liking Launcher8 and I'm getting far superior overall performance from my device than I was with GO Launcher EX. Of course at first I thought it was my now-aging Droid X2 but it improved considerably simply switching launchers.
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