Just my opinion

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    ok i woke up this morning to the official ota update staring at me. I selected remind me later went to petes site and seen the stopota.zip on his home page. I flashed it and seems to have blocked the ota update but has me thinking it is like putting a bandaid on a sore throat. kinda pointless right. just makes me wonder how far behind bb.04 really is because i never seen any official updates until today in all the time i have had my droid. Now where exactly is the official update in my phone so i can extract it i know the stopota is suppose to stop it but why take the chance. Now i would also like to point out for his site not being a replacement for df i sure haven't seen a post from pete on this site since his new site. I personally dont like the new blog he is using it seems to censor postings. if he dont check the post or dont like the post it wont go thru. which to me seems kinda pointless. by no means am "i talking crap about pete i am a big fan of him and his work" and understand that he is juggling alot with his job, school, gf and so on. just hope the new "toys" his new droid and his moms galaxy isnt getting in the way of the new update.<~~~ reason i say is that is all the postings i am seeing lately between his twitter and his blog. I for one am getting tired of installing other roms waiting for the release. Even if he doesn't fully comprehend the total ins and outs his roms are by far superior to the rest.
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    impatient to the extreme?
    note: he does this for free for us.
    note2: he said on tuesday that he was learning new things to incorporate to BBv.5
    note3: it's his blog, so he gets rid of the flaming & ignorance.

    i'm waitin too, man. it's got me checking his forum multiple times a day.
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    The great thing about opinions is, granted everybody is entitled to their own, nobody else has to agree with it.

    tp
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    yes he does do this for free for the masses but i have donated to the cause a cpl times . i am not impatient maybe he should figuare a way to block ota updates in the rom. as far as the blog if your gonna be in the public eye you have to accept the good the bad and the ugly. as it is posted by him direct contact to him why block postings. alltho my post finally showed up. it just seems he is moving on to the bbd "bigger better deal" and those of us that like what we got are getting left behind

    and with the interview there was discussion of .06 before .05 is even out
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    yes you are correct. but before there is any confusion this is an un-informational thread. just thought i would put that out there
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    No one has been left behind, I am still working on the Droid. As far as the patch I made being a "bandaid" it simply replaces some values in the build.prop.
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    ty for the reply it just seemed that way. {restored faith} i would be the the last person to critisize you and your work. as has been seen in many of my postings. and idk why your blog blocked me from posting but i posted and just today it showed up

    "sometimes gotta ruffle the peacocks feathers to get bigger eggs"
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    It may be just me, but this thread seems like that time I was talking about someone at a party and that person walked up behind me and busted me.
    :)
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    it is just you i have no problems with confrontation and if you read in the beginning post i stated and i quote
    by no means am "i talking crap about pete i am a big fan of him and his work"


    so in short read and fully comprehend before you make a post like this i made the same statement on his blog there was no talking behind his back
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    Damn, touchy. Did you notice the smiley?
    I was kidding.
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    Been using BB roms for months. Pete's gotta take his time. Perfection isn't instant gradification. In the mean time, try UD 6.0, It's awsome. New toys and tricks. When Pete's new one comes out, switch back and you'll know how to use all the new cool things Pete puts into his roms! Patient Grasshoppers!:):)
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    I was under the impression that clockwork or spr would automatically fail on the installation thereby not needing a patch? i just got released from the hospital today for acute kidney failure so it's highly possible I am mistaken.

    Edit: Answered me own question after some casual reading :)
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    Is this a joke? Acute kidney failiare... Is that an infection?
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    I wish it was a joke... the most painful last two days of my life. Something caused them to start shutting down (food poisoning, a virus, they couldnt find out) and ive had about 12 bags of iv saline put into me as well as 4mg iv morphine every 2 hours for the last 14 or so. This is definately no way anyone should "check out". I caught it early so hopefully everything rebounds fine.
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    The only issue here is that a preface, or disclaimer like the one you used
    does little when your content (prior to pete replying to you) wreaked of discontentment and sour grapes to an effect.

    A donation isn't payment for the work you download or use.
    Pete isn't *selling* his work, and your demands aren't reasonable.

    He does this because he loves to, and it just so happens
    MANY Droid owners agree in that they appreciate his work.

    He didn't choose to become (to some extent) a public icon in the Droid
    Modding Community, that is *YOUR* perception.


    It's not what you say...it is *how* you say it:wink:

    Expectations are what arguments, and discontentment are made of.
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    Well said. Not only this OP but I've noticed it a lot in these forums...This post wasn't as bad as some others but it seems like some people think they can be as harsh as they want by saying...I'm a huge fan... or something similar.

    If you have a problem or suggestion there's a right way and wrong way to bring it up. Look throughout the forums and you can see. And if all else fails learn to fix the problem yourself. That's what Pete is doing...learning as he goes, and in the process coming out with some pretty BA work if I don't say so myself.
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    thx for everyones great "OPINIONS"

    1. if i am gonna try another rom it will be in this order sapphire, chevy, jrummy. i never have liked ud. so that advice is not even getting second consideration.

    2. it wasnt ment to sound like i am paying for service i know i am not buying the rom. but dont you think if you support something you have a little bit more rights to an opinion?? i mean this isnt feeding the needy or cleaning the water in africa

    3. as far as pete being in the public eye as i originally stated maybe he is doing this just for "FUN" and the learning experience. but maybe you didnt notice the fame he has taken on you cannot search droid w/o seeing his name in a big majority of the search. there is alot of sites dedicated to android phones. all of which mention pete at some point and and therefor instant fame ie..Public eye.

    4. maybe none of you actually pay attention to your phones but did any of you notice the "BANDAID" for some reason eats memory and battery. at any given time i grab my phone and look at my system info widget it is sitting and 30 some percent memory. my phone never used to get below 60%. i use advance task manager always have even tho most say you dont need to. and it is only able to free up 80 to 95% memory used to get 100 to 106% sometimes 115% battery now last 8 hours before phone dies or needs charged. used to get 12 at average use. mind you i worked this weekend and my phone was in my vehicle not being used 8 hours is a dramatic drop from 12.

    initial restart of my phone takes about 2 minutes for memory to drop to 35% and just watching the numbers drop is crazy
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    Thanks for that condescending "POST!"
    I think it is a complete privilege to *use* someone's work
    (even if the derivative is someone elses work to begin with)

    Everyone (I feel) has the same level of rights to an opinion.
    Ethically if you run someone's modifications to a plain code
    I feel a lil something is in order, but in no way does it give you
    "special" rights to self righteously complain louder than someone else
    and it certainly doesn't make it appear more valid than XXX's opinion if
    it was known they hadn't made a contribution (like you did)

    Irrelevant. His work is keen, stable and is a reflection of most user's thoughts/wants/needs when running a ROM. When a dev is in touch
    with his community they will attain notoriety.

    Notoriety does not denote having an obligation to have a certain decorum
    just because he's in the public eye. In fact Pete is in the minority as are any other developer on the internet when measured against the majority who don't even know about this site, Pete's or other Droid Communities...

    In other words since Pete has stated *HE* initially didn't like the way things were in Android OS.
    He started learning, making modifications to the plain jane code. He "Shared" his work.

    The people responded (overwhelmingly) -Not his problem, and not his issue.
    He shared a gift. You can't (logically) complain or demand things from something that was a gift.
    It makes the person appear douche-tastic.

    No offense man, really but your issues are derived from "User Error."

    Your first issue is your lack of identifying HOW Android OS manages
    protocols, apps, services and processes. (In this case a task manager
    should be avoided) An "advanced" task killer/manager is even worse.

    2nd, Memory free is memory not in use and is essentially wasted to an extent. However, if you are not running:

    -SetCPU (and) using custom profiles based on your personl usage...
    -Auto Killer or (Min Free) and have it setup to *aid* the Android Os's
    native superior task managing capabilities

    You will have issues, and screen redraws most every time when
    Android OS deems it prudent to kill off apps it thought you didn't need or use...I keep Launcher Pro Plus in memory, use every widget, I have at least 50 apps installed right now, guess what?

    Memory free is always at 70MB or higher (based on the profile I setup
    via Auto Killer: Aggressive)

    My reboot, power off and power on cycle lasts
    1minute and 5 seconds. I have nolock, fancy widget and they all
    are ready to go after this time has elapsed...


    Stop killing off apps you think are slowing your phone down and try the
    apps I use in my sig, it will make your phone faster than you imagined!

    PM if you want to know more...Peace.
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    Dude you have no clue about me or what i do quit trying to evaluate what i am doing. you are making yourself look like a condescending jerk if you dont agree with what i am doing or what i am talking about so what there is thousands of other post in these forums. as far as me killing off apps i never had memory loss before applying the ota patch so do yourself a favor backtrack and find someone else's leg to hump before you give yourself an aneurysm. no need to pm you i been modding stuff a very long time mine are mostly hardmods. if you dont know what it is look it up. I am not asking or needing your help so peddle your lil red wagon on

    [​IMG]

    my quadrant is higher then yours you have no idea about speed so plz just backoff for that matter read my sig all my scores are higher
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    Hmm pay attention to your phone? Really...

    I have installed the OTA patch on this rom and several others, I see NO memory issues, loss or other things on any of the roms. Maybe i'm lucky who knows, but defiantly if there is a problem, its not on my phone.

    As for the patch, why use it if its causing a problem? its been proven (yes I did much leg work on multiple roms when the update started showing up) using the patch and not using it, that just allowing the update to run and it failing was enough to never get asked again.

    And before you go on about a thousand other posts, there is as many that don't have problems...