HTC Locking bootloaders?

Discussion in 'Android News' started by pc747, Mar 23, 2011.

  1. jstafford1

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    Its not so much doom and gloom as a principal thing. Android was supposed to be open, but is becoming closed. Encryption is the next step for HTC. So its not far off. Only time will tell.

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    The Thunderbolt's bootloader is NOT encrypted but it IS locked. Its already been unlocked, so its a non-issue. But none of this is "Android's fault" or Google's fault. Its nothing like Apple/iOS either. Apple makes iOS just for Apple devices and controls everything. Google makes Android for a huge myriad of devices and it is completely up to the manufacturers whether or not to limit it physically. Android has no stipulations over conditions like the bootloader, its up the handset makers. And right now I have a feeling Verizon is riding these guys hard to lock their devices. And I also have a feeling they're gonna lose a lot of respect from the dev community because of it. I'm paying for a handset, and I'll be damned if I'm limited as to what I can do to it simply because I have a contract with Big Red. I hope HTC/Motorola quit bending over for these guys and make some more great 4G devices that are dev friendly like the Droid 1.

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    That's my thought as well.
     
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    How is it the next step though? Dinc locked Evo T-Bolt locked Eris locked G1(probably) & 2 locked Nexus 1 locked.
     
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    See we can agree :p

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    It has nothing to do with Android not being open. Maybe I'm just arguing semantics with you guys but Android itself has always been and always will be open source. Nothing has changed there. What's changed is Verizon is pressuring HTC and Motorola to lock their HANDSETS down, not Android, so that the software that's on it can't be modified. This is because they're trying to create a closed handset environment where they control everything to the t so they can gurantee top quality service. That is their viewpoint and I think it is valid. However, 90% of Android customers aren't going in there looking for a dev friendly phone with unlocked bootloader, yadda yadda yadda. This reminding me a lot of our DRM battle. The only people locking music/locking bootloaders are the people using it. 10% of the population is gonna want an unlocked phone to do with as they please and they have every GD right to do so.

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    Locked, but not signed...now locked and signed....its coming. They are slowly getting to a locked down system. Motivated by the carriers I'm sure.

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    That's why I said manufacturers and carriers. They are ruining Android. Android will remain open of course, but if the hardware isn't then what's the point??

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    Actually I can't name an unlocked HTC android device. This seems like....absolutely nothing has changed.
     
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    I suspected that companies would start leaning toward locking devices after 1) people kept bricking their phones and 2) after spyware was found in the market. If you are going to encrypt the bootloader to protect me then I as a user should have the right to purchase that key especially if after a year of owning my device the manufacturer decide that they are not going to support the device anymore. Now I understand them locking the device IF they are protecting their software (sense, blur), but allow us the option to unlock it, and upon unlocking it you remove your software. Now part of the software that motorola and htc paid for may include swype, skype, and other features and apps I like. But that is fair for all parties, if the oem is paying for the software as a feature then if I want that feature I will have to keep my phone locked and running their custom UI. If I want to run a custom rom and unlock it then I lose the features they offer in exchange for me running a custom rom.
     
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    Agreed. As has been pointed out numerous times in this thread, the openness of the entire package has been a huge draw for some people (obviously not all since there is still a large demographic of people that don't care, hence the outrageous iPhone sales). That has been the huge advantage.
     
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    Correct me if I'm wrong but that is the point of unlocking; once unlocked you can run unsigned. Just like Dinc correct?