HTC Droid Incredible 2 Gets Official Press Release; Coming April 28th for $200

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    We knew that the HTC Droid Incredible 2 was coming soon, and it looks like Verizon didn't disappoint. The new global smartphone will be available on April 28th for $200 bucks on-contract. As reported previously, it has 4-inch LCD screen, a 1GHz Snapdragon processor, an 8 megapixel camera with dual LED flash, a 1.3-megapixel front-facing camera, and WiFi mobile hotspot support.

    Just like the Droid Charge, this phone has me scratching my head... While the original Droid Incredible was a pretty "incredible" phone when it first arrived, this one isn't even dual-core and doesn't have 4G. It just seems like a "refresh", and since you can get the TBolt for only $130 bucks on Amazon, I can't understand why anyone would choose this one. What do you guys think? ...Bad market timing on Verizon's part I suppose. Regardless, here is their official press release below.
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    I think that the phone companies are out of control. They are working at such a frantic pace to get phones to market before the competition that they either release phones that have serious issues(HTC TB), or they end up releasing a phone that is already obsolete(Incredible 2), or they scrap the phone entirely(Bionic)...

    They need to slow the pace down. We don't need a revolutionary new phone every 5 months. I would rather have a new line of phones hit every January for the coming year, but know that they have the bugs worked out(TB battery life), or that the OS will actually be able to make use of the hardware(dual-core not supported by current OS), etc...

    But to release a phone takes time, to contract with the manufacturer, spec it out, test it, build it, get the OS ready, set up the infrastructure and support channels, markets it, distribute it and sell it... That process has it's own cycle and time frame, and when they are trying to release phones on a cycle that is faster than that, the above problems that I listed are what we the consumers get screwed with...

    Phones that we wait for and get scrapped, phones that we buy and the battery won't last more than 4 hours unless you disable all the features that you bought the phone for in the first place, phones that we purchase and are told that we won't get to use the second core till next year after the phone's replacement will be released.

    It really is a stupid cycle that they are on. They need to be more strategic about this.
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    new phones - yawn

    I don't know why anyone would buy this unless they just don't know any better.

    I agree they need to quit pumping out every concept phone they come up with & just offer up a good solid phone with improvements once a year.

    Eventually the public is going to get educated or get disgusted because they realize they have a new/old phone that they are locked into for two years and stop buying.
    The manufactures will have to stop pumping out all this rehash of the same thing out if they want to recoup the development cost of the phone.

    Right now it seems like they are making as much money as they can selling what ever they can on hype & the new trend.
    Eventually they will have to get serious & focus on making really good phones with new features to be able to sell a phone.
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    I agree with pretty much everything said, although I'm not sure I classify the TB battery issues at release as a serious problem. If anything, I think the battery itself (woefully underpowered for a device with that kind of firepower) is the bigger issue. And HTC (or VZW) did end up pushing the release of that phone back a bit in an attempt to fix those issues.

    I agree with the statement that this DInc 2 is a bit of an anomaly considering that the specs are comparable or, in some cases, inferior to the TB and yet you can get the TB for 35% cheaper elsewhere... I guess they're aiming this release at the impulse buyer who will reach for the latest, and not necessarily the greatest...
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    With them getting rid of 1 year contracts, they need to slow this stuff down. If they expect me to have to use a phone for TWO YEARS, then they shouldn't be charging top dollar for a phone that is inferior and more expensive than what they released 2 months ago.

    I understand having different phones and price points to choose from and having a diverse product line, but seriously, why would anyone buy this phone? Because the screen is marginally larger?
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    I was just at a vzw store. They had signs up already for this phone. the sign said "The New Droid Meh. Buy It...Or Don't...Whatever"
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    Sometimes you guys make me chuckle.

    People will buy it because not everyone reads the Droid forums and wants the best of the best. For a person who isn't or doesn't want cutting edge this is a great smartphone for them. Dual core processor .. for what? Bigger screen ... that doesn't fit in my pocket nicely. 4G omg!! .... not in my area.

    Most people who visit forums and actively chat about a product are cutting edge and the top percentage of that consumer base, product education wise. This phone will sell simply because it's an Incredible 2 ... and a lot of people, not on these forums, will buy it because they loved their Incredible 1.
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    Those Verizon stores have a lot of slots on the shelf to fill. And every new phone means a ****load of new accessories to go with it. There are new customers entering the marketplace every day. Choice is good. The more phones, the better. Most people I work with who have smartphones wouldn't know an sbf file from an std . They buy what looks cool or just feels right in their hand. Why does Ford sell the Explorer and the Edge? They're both midsized SUVs.....

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    No edit.

    Was going to add .. Honda sells a lot of Civics. The arguments could be easily made that there are better vehicles performance and technology wise for the same money.
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    There's a couple of things going for it. A lot of places online seem to like 4" screens more than 4.3" b/c it's still a big screen, but a little easier to fit in the hand/pocket/etc. (I don't agree with it, but some folks do). Second, with the coming move to tiered data plans (at least on LTE if not on 3G as well), this phone avoids those tiered data plans. And lastly, it's a global HTC Android phone.
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    But why sell and support a phone that is the same as what you already offer?

    Either way, VZW is taking your $100 a month for your plan. The less phones they have to subsidize and support, the better their profit margins would be.

    I know that people want choices and all that, but I just wonder at what point they will hit the tipping point.

    The TB had battery issues. Whether it is a design flaw, an OS issue or just too small of a battery. They knew about it, and they sold it anyway because they had a deadline. So it was better to push a defective phone to market than it was to push a quality phone to market.

    All the hype around the Bionic, and for what? How many millions did that blunder cost them?

    I guess that I just get irritated when you see companies like VZW going crazy with the "New New New spend money on this please we are desperate!!!" sales pitch, and half their crap is either half-baked, still-born or a mild rehash of last year's model that you will be stick with until 2013...
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    I wonder if this fits into the plan to charge more for 4G on a 4G device without a choice to the consumer and regardless of coverage. I could see the 3G-only options being attractive to those who don't need/want or can't use 4G. The problem is, at launch, no such pricing scheme has been revealed. I'm sure this will launch cheaper than the Thunderbolt with third party retailers. The $199 is Verizon direct pricing and is still cheaper than the vzw-direct Thunderbolt. Just saying.
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    Those are not bad points.

    Although the screen size is weak. I mean, the difference on overall dimensions between my DX and an iPhone 4 is actually pretty minimal, yet my screen is almost an inch bigger diagonally.
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    I think a couple of reasons actually. There are a lot of people that just want a solid, sleek phone that works well and costs less.

    Again I go back to the car manufacturer Honda. Look at the Civic and the Civic SI. There are FAR more civics sold than SI's .... why? Reliability, comfort and cost. A lot of people look at the SI's but in the end they make a conscious decision to buy the standard Civic. It's not as new, actually the same for 5-7 years at a time, it's not as fast, not as pretty and way less technology inside. But, it's what I NEED. Not what I want.

    This phone is a solid phone, great for someone who doesn't want to pay $250 or $300, doesn't want to have to deal with some unknown issues .. ie: The TB battery and 3G/4G issues. (My wife didn't care about the battery, but we and many others had huge 3G issues)

    For a lot of people who NEED a smartphone for work or whatever this phone is perfect. They don't need a dual core processor, or a 4.3" screen, or 4G, or any of the other new technology offered. Those are WANTS, but not NEEDS.

    We as readers of this forum inherently buy what we WANT. Not what we really need.

    It's funny to blame VZ or phones companies in general for pumping out technology to fast. Yet, in this same forum ... thread .. I can point out people who are waiting for the Dual core 4G phones. Phone companies are just pumping out what people want. Supply and Demand.
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    Well, I guess that makes sense...
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    In saying that, it's silly lol.

    I'm waiting for one of the dual core 4g phones ... but I'd also buy the SI, well actually the speed3 but yea :p
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    It may be a good phone but its such a small upgrade that its hard to see why you would buy it. If you want a good phone there are TONS of them out there.
    -iphone
    -droid inc 1
    -Droid 2 Global

    All fine phones that really are as good as this(well not as good but close) and cost less

    People are not fighting that its a bad phone, they are saying why pay $200 for this phone when you can snag a TB with the extra battery for less. You then get 4g a 32GB card, a phone that lasts all day all for less money still.

    People found us a way to turn off the 4g and make it last even longer. You still get all the other perks with longer life(if you need it)

    If say amazon comes out and posts this at $100 id then say its a very fair price and worth it. As of now its just not.
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    For all those saying buy a "TB" you do realize the TB is "NOT GLOBAL CAPABLE" right?

    This will only be the third global capable android on the market for Verizon. The Droid 2, Droid Pro, and now the Incredible 2.

    That is why people will buy this phone.

    As for new people entering the market, well maybe for smart phones but not much for actual new customers to the cell phone market. I would say in excess of 80% of Verizons new customers are people switching from different providers. For the most part the cell phone market is completely saturated now.

    Now, as for 3G vrs 4G, many people don't care about the speed difference and if its not in thier area they don't want it anyways. Many people don't bother to look up and see when 4G is coming either and even then, if they know it is coming, there are many business/end users who want to wait and make sure it is all stable and good before moving to 4G.

    The Incredible 2 to the Incredible is like the Droid 2 Global is to the Droid 2. Not much of a difference, but enough to put a lot of value in business users who travel.
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    Well said, business users must be the target audience...or importers.
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    I'm sure that even a basic person with no cell phone knowledge would get the TB over this. at the verizon store by me, the TB is $220. $20 more for a much better phone that will have to last you 2 years
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