How to purchase T-bolt and get grandfathered in

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    Is there anything special to know here? With the supposed tiered/July 7th date nearing I'd like to go ahead and take advantage of the unlimited 3G/4G option.

    It looks as though Amazon.com has the best deal going for a T-bolt. How do I ensure I will get the grandfathered unlimited data if purchasing there or should I purchase from Big Red instead?

    Would really appreciate some advice before moving forward.
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    You have to make a sacrificial offering (your first born preferably) inside a pentagram while you stand on you stand on your head and hail Big Red as you press the order button. :icon_evil:

    Just kidding.

    Really no one knows how it is going to work quite yet. Right now there is no difference between 3G and 4G data plans. So in theory as long as you have an unlimited smartphone data plan prior to the 7th you should be able to be grandfathered in (know that Blackberry plans are different so going to or from a BB could change your contract). But there are people that think if you upgrade to a new phone and sign a new contract after the 7th, that it could force you to change to a tiered plan. You could buy phones off contract at full price and possibly keep unlimited, but even then there could be some stipulation forcing you into tiered data. More details should come forward as it gets closer to the 7th, but right now it is basically rumors.

    There is also the fact that whatever happens July 7th could be completely different 3 - 6 months down the road. With the iPhone5 releasing a bit later this year, or early next year, some of the rules could be amended by then. And 2 years from now, or thereabouts when you will have an upgrade available, who knows what the rules will be like then.
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    Amazon's phone/ data service contract is really through Verizon so same details and you would be grandfathered in. It is the same with all third party retailers. Some of them, most of them also have additional agreements that are different than Verizon's, such as you must keep the phone on contract with the same number for at least 6 months or you pay a penalty whereas if you purchase the phone through Verizon, you can put any other phone on that line that you want.

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    Ahhh, I see.

    So, since I ultimately want the Bionic (which will likely release AFTER the tiered plans) I should purchase through Verizon so I'm not bound to stay with it for 6 months right?

    This would allow me to sell the TB as soon as I can nab a Bionic (albeit at full price) and switch them out without loosing my unlimited 3G/4G package?

    And if the above is true, which 4G phone might bring me the greatest USED resale value since I'll be forced to activate it and use those monies toward my Bionic?

    Sorry for so many questions but I'm trying to play my cards right here.
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    Have you done an Ebay search for pre-owned 4G phones? Compare what they are going for... I don't know if the TB or Charge has a higher resale value.

    That being said, why don't you just purchase a used phone online and save your upgrade for the Bionic?
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    Because the Bionic will likely release after the tiered data. I want to be part of the unlimited gang.
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    Yeah. So again, why don't you purchase a used phone online? Activate it and start your unlimited data plan prior to July 7th.
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    Beka27,

    Thanks for your replies. Maybe I'm over-complicating this so hopefully you and others can set me straight. I'm missing something...

    Let's say I purchase a TB from ebay. I call verizon and activate it. I wouldn't want to renew my contract with them at that time because I would want a discounted Bionic when they release.

    However, if I only activated the TB then I wouldn't be signing on for the unlimited contract and that would push me past the tiered data plans when I actually purchased the Bionic and renewed and I would be on tiered.

    If you would, pleas help me with what component I'm not getting here. Are you saying I could effectively be grandfathered by only activating a used TB on my plan without a contract renewal?
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    if you have unlimited data prior to 7/7 youre grandfathered in... if you sign up for a data plan after 7/7 youll be tiered. so if you dont have a data plan id get one now.

    as it stands now you can upgrade and keep unl. data provided you have a data plan prior to 7/7
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    Ok thanks for clearing that up. I can't just get a DroidX right? I need to get a used 4G phone to be 4G unlimited. Right?
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    Yup. Exactly. :)

    You could get a used X too. There is no difference between the 3 & 4G unlimited plans. The X is an amazing phone, it would definitely keep you occupied until the Bionic arrives.

    You might want to make a run on something used soon tho, I'm guessing those Ebay/Craigslist smartphones will be snapped up pretty quick as more people realize they need to upgrade to unlimited within the next 2 weeks.
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    ^quick question so it can be any smart phone right? nd then when i upgrade to the bionic or d3, thats when i renew my contract to get the new price?
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    For some reason (maybe it was something I read) I thought the 3G and 4G billing was different. Such as, someone with a DX and an unlimited plan couldn't buy a TB and upon activating it have unlimited 4G.

    Crazy
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    So this is true? 3G unlimited is the same as 4G unlimited?
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    I have a good friend working for Verizon and he tells me yes you are grandfathered in the unlimited data as long as you have it before July 7. It is also transferable from one 3g device to another 3g device. He is pretty sure that once you go 4g you will be in the limited data plans. 4g will pull 15GB/sec and 3g is around 1GB/sec now. I am personally happy with my X and 3g so I will wait as long as I can

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    The 3G and 4G plans cost the same, and you do not need to sign an agreement to move from 3G to 4G if you purchase a used 4G capable phone and want to activate it. I have heard, though, that you do need to have Verizon make a change in their system to show that you're on the LTE network, but it's not a new plan or anything like that.

    I'm not really sure what happens if you wait until after 7/7 to switch over to 4G. No one's sure yet.
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    What about when my contract come up for renewal in a year? Because I am an unlimited customer before 7/7 can I continue to roll my contracts over as unlimited? Or just the current contract stays unlimited and my next one goes to the new structure?
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    Right now it states that you would be grandfathered. But they could definitely amend the rules before your renewal date a year from now. Especially with the way some of the leaked documents have been worded, saying things like "at this time".
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    Buy a thunderbolt from best buy. There buyback plan gives you 50 percent mfr retail within six months. 300 of a bionic full retail sounds good.

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    After researching for the past month, I finally bought a new phone. I had 2 eligible upgrades out of four but my number was not one of them.

    I ordered online through Costco. It seems they were always the first to offer phones at a bigger discount, then the other online retailers followed suit ( Amazon, Wirefly, A-1, etc).

    The biggest difference between Costco and the others is that at Costco, when you upgrade your phone, the upgrade prices always seem to be the same as new line prices instead of more and you can use your upgrade for any line.

    I searched every term of service agreement on Costco's website and could not find anywhere that I would get a $250 penalty if I switched the phone to another line such as is the case with all the others. To be solidly certain I could switch the new phone to another line after purchasing, I called. The Costco representative told me that as long as I had an eligible upgrade that it did not matter what I did with the phone once I got it... that I could put it on any line I wanted including giving the phone away if I wanted. Their terms are that you have to have an eligible upgrade and sign a new 2 year contact.

    Additional benefits: you have 90 days to decide if you want to return the phone and you also get a free accessory package.

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