OK since i never got an answer here from the people stating there will be hdmi accesories out for the thunderbolt. I continued to do research on my own. went to store to look at the usb and it definaltely is not the same type usb out as the incredible and does not support hdmi out through it. called htc tech support at 866-449-8358 4 times talked to 4 differnt people who all put me on hold and sll stated only the evo has hdmi out. on 4th called i asked to talk to the highest tech person possible since the spec sheet pdf first accesory listed states hdmi toggle. He told me that that was a possible addition for dlna to tv's that dont support dlna natively and was mis printed as hdmi. He stated that he is 100% sure that the thunderbolt does not support and will not suport hdmi as it does not have the hardware to do so. and that the evo was the option if i wanted that . I told him yeah i want the evo 3d now put it on a network that actually has signal off of major highways. as we talked he also told me that the htc inspire 4g on att is an almost identical device except for the radio. and also does not support hdmi out. the question here to me is if they are the same device whay is att charging 99 and verizon 249 I have talked to a lot of phone techs for many issues phones and otherwise and at the stores and i felt these guys and 1 gal actually seemed to know what they were talking about. If someone has some info to show that this is not factual please comment. since i was ready to bite the bullet and get the phone but i really want hdmi. I believe the htc tech support people on this one as they seemed to not only know what i was talking about but what devices they offerered that did have it. I did ask the guy at the verizon store also but at least he was honest he said he didnt know anything about it but that there was no port on the phone. glad he told me i couldnt visualize that myself so take this for what its worth but im convinced enough to not buy this phone since hdmi is a feature i want.