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Had the Palm Pre Plus, Back to the Droid

Discussion in 'Non-Android Smart Phones' started by PaulAndroidMan, Jan 29, 2010.

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    Hey everyone,

    I am hoping that this post will be of some use to someone that may be in the situation that I was. I was offered an extremely discounted phone on another line through Verizon, and the person that used the line was perfectly happy with being paid off for the upgrade, which I graciously took advantage of.

    I ordered the Palm Pre Plus via telesales, and it arrived the next day. I immediately noticed how small the phone was (and somehow it smelled like paint, must have been the box). I took the phone out, booted it up, and activated it.

    My initial thoughts weren't great. I immediately noticed how "laggy" the device was. Launching simple (albeit necessary) apps like the phone, browser, and email all took more than two seconds. The menus on the operating system are terrible. To access a menu, you must tap the upper left corner of the app, there isn't a dedicated button that exists for this.

    I noticed that the device was light. I can't consider this positive or negative, maybe a matter of preferance, but not a determining factor in my decision. The device was light because the build was cheap. I actually thought of the Droid of being a little cheaply built (and I still think that quality control is the issue with Motorola). The slider on the device was okay, but not of one of preferance for me. It would slide extremely easy for first part of the process, then (I assume) a spring would kick in and slide it the rest of the way for you. If you look on just about every Palm Pre forum, they refer to a condition with the slider and screen being used as the "oreo effect". I did not have this, at least I don't think; my device was a little loose when the keyboard was exposed.

    The power button is in an extremely un-comfortable, un-preferable place. Many people have complained of the Droid's power button location, yeah, try the Pre Plus. The battery cover was steady, didn't move, as it has on some previous phones.

    The camera took decent pictures for a phone, and showed much clarity with very few pictures that turned out blurry.

    The screen is definitely the phone's biggest hardware let down. After coming from a Droid, which had a large, vibrant, strong, glass screen, the Pre Plus is a major downgrade. The screen is made of plastic, and while this isn't necessarily a problem, I found that it didn't feel quite as nice as the Droid. The LCD screen is no where near the quality of the Droid. The Pre Plus's screen was not as nice for reading, viewing pictures, or video (which I only tested with the Pre Plus demo video and YouTube).

    My major issue with the screen was one that, again, many people have noticed on Pre forums. There were many dots (laid out via a grid) over the screen. As anyone who has ever had a touch screen phone before and paid attention to the screen, you will know that these are touch sensors, and "sense" your finger's touch and tell the software to respond. I have had quite a few touch screen phones (Storm, Storm 2, Droid, and Pre Plus) and none of them had dots as visible as the Pre's Plus's. After about two days, this really began to annoy me. I put a screen protector on, and they were still noticeable.

    As a final note on the hardware, the best description I have is cheap and not well built. I would question if this phone could last a full two years (as some people keep their phone for).

    As a final note on the software, the best description I have is not ready for prime time. The frequent lag and in-accessibility were enough to turn me off, and the email and browser were at best sub-par. I did the equivilant of rooting/jailbreaking the phone, and there were few benefits, besides an on-screen keyboard which was terrible, wouldn't close when I wanted it to, and caused even more lag to an already laggy system.

    In my final notes, there were a couple things I liked. I liked the phone's use of cards. Being able to view all programs open at once was nice, but again was a source of lag in certain instances. I also (not directly, of course) liked the call quality of the Palm Pre Plus to other people. I find, on my Droid, people ask me "What did you say?" and "I can't hear you!" quite commonly. I have had the phone replaced for this very reason to no avail; I don't know rather an update can fix this.

    As stated above, I hope this review will be helpful for somebody. I have had the opportunity to test both phones in daily use, in a non-biased way. It is now back to the Droid.
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    well, welcome back to the Droid side...

    only thing the Pre Plus has on the Droid is the extra RAM. everything else sides with the Droid
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    Thanks for the post, actually someone posted a thread either last night or the previous night that they were thinking about going to the PPP because of disappointment with their Droid. Hopefully they'll see this thread.

    Welcome back.
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    I really think that people who are disappointed in Droid SHOULD switch phones. Then they will get a lesson on how good the Droid actually is.
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    no kidding :) at least on VZs network, nothing beats the Droid yet.
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    Hookbill, you are 100% correct! I actually think this little "expedition" caused me to look further into what the Droid does. I hadn't (up to this point) rooted my Droid. I have done so, and have already taken advantage of just some of the benefits reeked by that action.

    I've done quite a bit of programming over the years, so rooting the Droid has really showed me the presence of Linux in the operating system. :)
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    Well it's disappointing to see Palm hasn't really addressed the lag issues. That's one of the reasons I switched from the Palm Pre. Even with more ram, you're having the same problem. There were days when the lag would get so bad I had to reboot and wait almost 2 mins for the thing to boot. I'm seeing the same GPS issues cropping on the Pre forums as well. Looks like the GPS is still hit or miss.

    IMO, going from a Droid to the PPP is a step backward but I guess it depends on what the person is after. Some prefer the small formfactor, but for me, that was a huge disadvantage especially when web browsing or viewing attachments. Palm seriously needs to put out a bigger phone. I wonder how Pre plus sales are doing?
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    The overall premise of the phone kinda annoys me. With the screen being so small you're forced to control everything via on screen menus. This works fine if you're using the 3.5 inch iPhone screen, but when you're only dealing with 3.1 inches or real estate, things can get cramped. No Google street view in maps, Browser has to constantly redraw the pixels while scrolling, etc...

    Besides my issues with design, build, and battery life (which I'm assuming has improved with the Verizon version) I could probably overlook those issues if it just wasn't so sloooooow. I can't understand how the webOS crowd puts up with that just to have pretty gradients and a card view task manager. That being said though, I'd take it over a Blackberry any day.
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    Unfortunately no, the battery life was another terrible thing. I could not get a full day out of it. I know it's not necessary, but I did try to "condition" the battery by letting it run down and re-charge fully three times.

    Paul
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    all the things ive seen on the pre plus makes it look really fast....disapointing. Seemed to have potential.
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    I just returned two (2) Palm Pre Pluses and ordered a Droid. I returned the Palm Pre Pluses for several reasons:
    1. I was missing more than half of my incoming calls because neither of the Pre Pluses would ring through - even though we are in a good Verizon coverage area (my wife's Motorola phone works fine all the time - plus I would have 4 and 5 bars even as my Pre Pluses were NOT ringing for an incoming call - and yes, the ringer was on!).
    2. When the Pre Pluses DID ring, their ringer volumes and their speaker volumes were not nearly as loud as either my old Palm Treo or my wife's Motorola. I could not hear my caller's voices in areas with only minimal background noise (bathroom fan, air-condidtioner, car, etc.)
    3. The first Pre Plus had a flakey keyboard that stuttered horribly on the r's and e's - as in rrr and eee instead of r and e. The keyboard on the second Pre Plus was fine.
    4. The Palm Profile Cloud-based back-up software was an unmitigated catastrophe that did not work as advertised. When I went from the first Pre Plus to the second Pre Plus, Palm managed to lose ALL of my memos -there were hundreds- and my entire ToDo list. I see Palm's abandonment of the Palm Desktop as an arrogant insult to those of us who have been loyal Palm users since the first Palm Pilots - what in the world were they thinking? I will NEVER go back to Palm!
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    i was playing with the palm pre plus for the first time in the VZ store the other day, and i couldn't believe how cheap it felt in-hand... it felt like a toy... the casing is all plastic... the keyboard is all plastic... i don't know how people would choose this over the Droid... except if you're a WebOS aficionado. i actually think the Palm Pixi Plus is a better made phone... even though the specs aren't so hot.
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    nice yeah my personal opinion is anyone that has some type of love for computers and some decent understanding with them is going to be in love with the droid... if this isn't you, then you may better off with something else or at least checking out a friends for a while to make sure its something you do want.