I've posted several threads expressing frustration at gnav and the droid gps and through that found posts by several members that stated the issue could be bad aps which use gps- well upon further research i found the culprit. I wish all of the bad apps were weather or news or topical but they aren't. The only commonality appears to be their use of our droid's gps. My bad app was ap news- it's a news app which uses location (I hope that this is the issue) . I also deleted other apps i wasn't using. resolution- i went outside and found my location and found a gps signal immediately. If you're having droid gps/ gnav issues, check your apps.