Google Tightening Grip on Android - Less Open, "Open Source"

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  1. cpjr

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    Did I say they were the same? Did I even try to imply it...no.

    This is the direction they are going. End of story. Doesnt mean they will ever be as bad, doesnt mean they wont.

    So calm down.
     
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    Sorry, it was actually wingdo. The quote button auto-filled everything. I am going back to quoting manually.
     
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    I disagree that they are going in the direction of banning apps they dont like or platforms they dont like. I have seen zero evidence of that.
     
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    Ok, lets get off the app discussion, since this thread has nothing to do with it.

    We are talking about the OS, Apple's OS has a deathgrip on it and now Google is trying to tighten the belt on theirs. How is that not heading in the same direction?
     
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    This is both good and bad. I'm all for this though depending on what Google wants to do.

    Google has made it very clear in the past that they want Android to be a standalone object in the Android world. Anything else should be an installable program. Sense, Blur and Touchwiz should be able to be turned off completely or even uninstalled.

    I think what we're seeing is Google wanting companies like HTC, Moto, and Samsung to not muck around in the source code by building Sense, Blur, Touchwiz directly into the system and causing dependencies. That way updates can happen faster. If the base code on the device is still relatively close to what is on AOSP then updates comes quicker.

    Look at the Tmobile Theme Engine on Github. That's the way themes should be done. That's what I think Google vision for Android is. Keep Android open for all to use but get people to modularize it. That way fragmentation is kept to a minimum.

    Sure you have EOL devices that can't run newer versions but that's to be expected. The Droid is a perfect example. However, I also think the Droid got a fair number of updates during its lifetime. 2.0.0 was stock. 2.0.1 came next. Then 2.1. Then 2.2. Then 2.2.1 and 2.2.2. That's pretty good when you think about.

    I also think part of this is to stop companies like Samsung from stringing their customers along in order to get the updates out there. Once again this would start bringing fragmentation under control.

    Just don't forget that every system has fragmentation. It's inevitable. The key is controlling it to the best of your ability and if Google needs to exert a little bit of control to do it then I say so be it.
     
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    I don't think it's 'end of story' either.

    There needed to be some accountability of Google's part to ensure a high quality product... I think this is a great step toward it.

    Is it all rainbows and unicorns? No, there are negatives to it as well, but overall I think it will only improve the end product for consumers.
     
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    PS- And the more of a grip they get on the OS, the more "closed" it becomes, the more they will restrict the apps that run on it in the long run.
     
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    Well said. I'm thinking along the same lines.
     
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    Dont get me wrong, I think they need it. I agree it will drive quality up, which is something that is lacking on android. I am for it, I was just making a point.
     
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    And I didn't mean to negate your point, I just meant to convey I don't see it as such a cut and dry inevitability. Your thoughts are welcome, I didn't mean to step on toes :)

    As long as they only push as far as to get a 'central' OS that mfg's can then (for lack of a better description) "decorate" (UI's) instead of mfg's putting their UI's into the OS itself... more of a layer, that can differentiate mfg's from one another, but at the same time still offer the same 'solid' Android OS behind them... then I'm all for it.

    Hopefully they don't go overboard... but only time will tell.
     
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    If it does not lead to the issues I described before, I dont see how it is a bad thing. The OS deathgrip is only a bad thing when abused. Apple abuses it. I have not seen evidence that google has or will.
     
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    That is an example of what I was talking about. You seem to be assuming this is inevitable. I do not agree.
     
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