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    Is there an app that will let me freeze apps for free

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    I too have been searching for this. Guys? Any thoughts/suggestions??
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    Yes there is, Titanium backup free in the market. :)

    You have to be rooted though, to use it.

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    Sorry, guess I wasn't specific enough. Looking for app to freeze other apps that does not require me to root.
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    Sorry I have not heard of any app that let's you freeze apps without being rooted. I believe that for an app to be able to freeze others it has to have root access.

    If you yould like to root to beable to freeze apps I can point you in the right way. There is a one touch app out there that makes rooting most phones very easy.

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    I really would prefer not to but, out of curiosity, what is the app? Any other suggestions for blocking bloatware from running?
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    The app is z4root. I don't think its available in the market any more but you can find it on the XDA developers forum, here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833953

    There are also a few threads on Z4root here on the forum.

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    Anything to add on my other question?

    "Any other suggestions for blocking bloatware from running?"
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    Sorry no I do not.

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    Won't Launcher Pro let you hide apps from the App Drawer? I know that isn't exactly the same, but if it is a sort of "out of sight, out of mind" solution. I mean they, the bloatware, do no harm other than being a constant reminder that Verizon jacked with your OS.
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    Yep. I've got LauncherPro installed and have them hidden from my app drawer. The problem is that they still run in the background and it is killing my battery.
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    They have nothing to do with battery use.



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    The bloatware should not kill your battery if you don't use it. By the way what phone do you have?

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    Apps are loaded into ram by Android on the assumption that you are going to use them. The are in Ram and are not "running". They are dormant until called on. It takes no power to keep them in ram. Think of ram as a thumb drive - no power needed to keep data or apps loaded on a thumb drive.

    If you want a more detailed explanation, here's one that was aimed at the evil of Task Killers, but it gives a good explanation of the how the OS manages apps.

    Task Killers Per Lifehacker:

    Android Task Killers Explained: What They Do and Why You Shouldn't Use Them
    How Android Manages Processes

    In Android, processes and Applications are two different things. An app can stay "running" in the background without any processes eating up your phone's resources. Android keeps the app in its memory so it launches more quickly and returns to its prior state. When your phone runs out of memory, Android will automatically start killing tasks on its own, starting with ones that you haven't used in awhile.
    The problem is that Android uses RAM differently than, say, Windows. On Android, having your RAM nearly full is a good thing. It means that when you relaunch an app you've previously opened, the app launches quickly and returns to its previous state. So while Android actually uses RAM efficiently, most users see that their RAM is full and assume that's what's slowing down their phone. In reality, your CPU—which is only used by apps that are actually active—is almost always the bottleneck.

    Why Task Killers Are (Usually) Bad News


    Apps like Advanced Task Killer, the most popular task killer in the Market, act on the incorrect assumption that freeing up memory on an Android device is a good thing. When launched, it presents you with a list of "running" apps and the option to kill as many as you want. You can also hit the Menu button to access a more detailed "Services" view, that lists exactly which parts of each application are "running", how much memory they take up, and how much free memory is available on your phone. This set-up implies that the goal of killing these apps is to free up memory. Nowhere on the list does it mention the number of CPU cycles each app is consuming, only the memory you'll free by killing it. As we've learned, full memory is not a bad thing—we want to watch out for the CPU, the resource that actually slows down your phone and drains your battery life.
    Thus, killing all but the essential apps (or telling Android to kill apps more aggressively with the "autokill" feature) is generally unnecessary. Furthermore, it's actually possible that this will worsen your phone's performance and battery life. Whether you're manually killing apps all the time or telling the task killer to aggressively remove apps from your memory, you're actually using CPU cycles when you otherwise wouldn't—killing apps that aren't doing anything in the first place.
    In fact, some of the processes related to those apps will actually start right back up, further draining your CPU. If they don't, killing those processes can cause other sorts of problems—alarms don't go off, you don't receive text messages, or other related apps may force close without warning. All in all, you're usually better off letting your phone work as intended—especially if you're more of a casual user. In these instances, a task killer causes more problems than it solves.
    What You Should Do Instead

    That said, not all apps are created equal. Many of you have used task killers in the past and actually found that after freeing up memory, your phone works a bit better. It's more likely that this is because you've killed a bad app—one that was poorly coded, and (for example) keeps trying to connect to the internet even when it shouldn't. Any performance increase you experience is more likely because you killed the right app, not because you freed up loads of memory (or, in many cases, it's just placebo). Instead of killing all those apps, find out which ones are actually causing the problems. If you really know what you're doing, you may benefit from using a task killer to stop the one or two inefficient-but-loved apps on your phone.
    Note, however, that this is still a contested notion. A lot of developers (including ROM builder extraordinaire, Cyanogen) will not even look at your bug reports if you're using a task killer. In this humble blogger's opinion, your best bet is to stay away from regular task killer usage entirely. If you absolutely have to have that one battery-killing app on your phone, though, kill away—just be aware that when you experience a recurring Android bug later on, the task killer may be at fault. Of course, you can just stop using it to determine whether that is or isn't the case.
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    Sorry, I find that hard to believe. Your telling me that both Skype and Motoblur News (and the other Motoblur apps) running in the background, has nothing to do with my battery?


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    @BayouFlyFisher

    Yes, I'm aware of this and I don't use a task killer.

    This seems to being going off on a tangent so, I'll restate the original issue.

    Just got my Droid 2 Global over the weekend (used to have a Droid 1) and the battery life has been terrible. Hardly used it yesterday and it was dead by 7pm (after charging all night, the previous night).
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    When you check Battery Usage, what percentage do those two apps show they are using?
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    Okay, fair enough, I do not see them in there. What suggestions can you offer, regarding battery life?
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    Dim the screen, turn off wireless interfaces that aren't in use, and change widget update rates.

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    Did all that as soon as I got it. I got my original Droid right after it came out and learned this stuff early on. Never had an issue with it's battery.

    My wife got her Droid 2 Global at the same time I got mine and hasn't had near the battery issues I've had. This is her first smartphone so she has plenty of widgets running and hasn't adjusted her settings at all. After moderate use yesterday her battery was still @ 50% at 10 PM. I barely used mine and it didnt make it past 7 PM. Starting to think I have a defective battery.

    Either of you guys purchased the Moto Extended Battery for the Droid 2? Does it work well?
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