email wont send with wifi enabled but disconnected

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    I know there are tons of threads about wifi issues but I haven't seen this particular problem. If this has already been discussed, please give me the link so I can participate in that discussion.

    If I am at home and connected to my wireless router, email will send and receive as expected about 90% of the time. The other 10% of the time would be fantastic to fix but after reading so many threads about this, I fear it is a problem with the stupid phone and is unavoidable...same thing for google talk disconnecting every 5 minutes or when the phone goes to sleep and will not reconnect until I toggle airplane mode or reboot. However, those aren't the issues I'm curious about. I just wanted to post that to make it clear what exactly I'm trying to figure out.

    If I have wifi enabled but it isn't connected to a network, my phone will not send or receive anything but phone calls and texts. I was walking around Home Depot and I wanted to send my sister a picture of some baseboards to get her opinion, but the email just wouldn't send. I tried clearing the gmail cache, deleting messages in the outbox and resending, rebooting, etc. Nothing worked until I turned off wifi and it sent immediately. I really hope someone can tell me that is not the intended behavior and there is a way to fix it.

    As an aside, this is absolutely ridiculous. Embedded devices should work seamlessly and not require user intervention to make them work by doing things like rebooting, turning on/off features, toggling airplane mode, etc. Imagine if you had to reboot your router or modem this often. No one would tolerate that so I don't know why we tolerate it with a phone.
     
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    If Wifi is on, 3G is off. So if you aren't using Wifi, turn it off to have data access through 3G. Not difficult to do with the Power Control widget.
     
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    This is not an acceptable solution. My dads iPhone does this perfectly fine. It will transition seamlessly from wifi to 3G if no wireless network is available while wifi remains on the entire time, which is the behavior I would expect from the Droid.
     
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    If it's not acceptable, then maybe you should have gotten an iPhone? lol Why do people say "the iPhone does something so the Droid should do it too"? It's not an iPhone.
     
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    I haven't noticed this problem, though I haven't purposely tried to duplicate it. I have noticed that when there isn't wifi available the 3G will pick up the task, but if there isn't 3G there, it won't. Was there 3G service there at Home Depot for sure?
     
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    bike_guy,

    Yeah, you're right. I have 3G, enabled my WiFi connection, and still have 3G since it couldn't connect to WiFi. So I guess my droid is as good as an iPhone after all. Whew. That's a relief. :)

    I turn off WiFi to save battery when I'm not using it anyway, so never been an issue for me.
     
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    You can take your sarcastic comments somewhere else. Clearly you just don't understand what the problem is. Embedded devices should not, and most of them do not, require user intervention for such trivial things.

    I'm not asking for it to be like an iPhone. The point of the reference is the behavior is clearly and easily produced on an iPhone and the Droid should be doing it as well. How you use your phone has absolutely nothing to do with this. If you choose to turn your wifi on and off manually, then that's your choice. The vast majority of users will not want to mess with their phone and be anal about saving 5 minutes of battery life over the convenience of having it switch automatically like any device should do. I've been designing embedded devices for my entire career and this is not an unreasonable request, thus my reference to the iPhone. It's doing the right thing and the Droid is not. I want to find out why so I can continue using my Droid. This has nothing to do with the iPhone...if it helps you understand, just pick a different phone that does the right thing and substitute it into my sentence.
     
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    This is exactly what I am expecting it to do and exactly what it isn't doing. I've been able to duplicate this problem in several locations where the 3G service is known to be very good.
     
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