Effective AntiVirus

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    I know nothing is perfect, but I was wondering if there were any good antivirus solutions for the :motdroidvert:.

    I've been beta-testing some applications for people, and one of them did contain a trojan or whatever. I nandroided back and its fine, but I wan't to better prevent this kind of thing from happening. Can you virus-scan the .apk file, or can you scan it from your phone.

    Thanks!
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    Available virus protection is generally considered counter productive as it can cause system problems. And the majority of us feel that virus protection is unnecessary, I would say.

    I hear what you're saying, but if you found a trojan it's a first for the Droid.
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    Would a program from ESET detect viruses in an .apk, or not?
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    I Run a free program called LOOKOUT , it seems to work great has real time scanning as well as a full back up of all things on your phones and even has a phone locater device
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    I am curious as to how anyone knows these even work if there are no viruses to check? I mean has anyone been getting viruses? Have I missed something? just seems a bit paranoid to me.
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    I had one thing from somebody who was beta testing, but it wasn't a big deal. I like the Lookout Defense program; EXCEPT I am concerned that it is gonna #&^@ my battery over. Anyone have any experience/knowledge with the program?
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    How do you know it was in fact a trojan virus and not just a poorly written line of script, or a conflict with the OS and some app you were "beta testing", or something of the like?
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    Viruses targeting Linux are already such a small portion of the virus community. Viruses targeting Droid-Linux are obviously a small subset of that. Right now, you can say your phone is save via obscurity. This may change in the future, but for now, dont stress too much.
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    Well.. just to let u know guys that I have a Droid 1 running on rooted 2.2 FRG01B (stock) and just last week i think my phone got a virus. I could use it, the luancher and every was lagging a lot and it crashed as well.. so, b in the look out.
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    Bill what you feel about lookout?
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    The way to explain it just sounds like a bad app...

    Sent from my Droid
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    What are we looking out for exactly? There are no known android viruses.
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    LookOut Mobile Security

    First I would like to start off by saying I am new to this site, but I feel I have a lot to offer on this subject.


    LookOut Mobile Security Percs:
    :heart: Free App for :greendroid:

    :heart: Anti-Virus that can be customized (daily, weekly, what part of the day you want it to scan) If you keep Anti-Virus turned on it will also auto scan any new downloads.

    :heart: Data Backup. This includes all your contacts, call log, and any pictures on your phone. Also can be customized as to when you would like this backup to take place. (I have 148 contacts and it takes less than 2 minutes to back up)

    :heart: Missing Device Based on wireless networks, and GPS you are able to make your phone go nuts, or even LOCK IT DOWN if it is lost or stolen. This is VERY handy if you have contacts that you wish not to share with others if they obtain your phone. It is also very handy if you have a G/F who always gets pissed because she loses her phone. haha


    :lifting: :lifting: :lifting: :lifting:

    PLEASE READ THIS NEXT PART!!!!

    I read all the comments and for the most part everyone has said the same thing. Why do you need an anti-virus for a Linux based system. Viruses on Linux are rare and far inbetween however if you relate yourself at least some with Technology trends you will know Linux (even though an older Operating system, and generally less user friendly for computer retards) is becoming more and more popular. I have many friends over seas and here in the USA that have dual operating systems on there PC. All I am saying is take precaution before you have a problem.

    Second. LookOut Mobile Security is the top ranking mobile security app. for phones. The company is worth more than 11million dollars. (don't believe me search it, how many other apps you use have that kind of capital) LookOut Mobile Security also does not just support Android systems. Around 18 months ago I purchased a BlackJack II. This phone was CRAP but a smart phone all the same, and one of the better ones when I obtained it. The BlackJack II uses Windows Mobile. My phone was version 2.0 then updated to 2.1, they now are up to version 6.5 to work better with Windows 7.
    The reason why this is important is because the apps you obtain on your android you can also get with Windows Mobile. Maybe more virus chances with windows?


    Either way the back up is worth obtaining this free software. If you lose your device or upgrade all you have to do is go to

    https://www.mylookout.com/

    and restore all your contacts.


    I hope this helps!
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    The ability to lock down your phone's data sounds good. Constantly scanning for viruses that don't exist sounds like a waste of resources.
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    The lock down and the back up are the two main things I use. The virus scan does cause some lag on the phone and my phone is over clocked to almost 1.2Ghz lol. So I only run the virus scan once a week at around 3AM, but I do keep it set to auto scan any downloads I do, as it takes no time at all and IMO where my phone is my buisness and personal phone I don't want to take chances ya know?

    Either way its very customizable. And like I had stated I have been using them for almost 20months now, have had it installed on 3 different phones. My BlackJack II's it would back up SMS also. Its nice either way to look back for old friends phone numbers or TXT messages for maybe legal purposes?

    I don't know how many judge shows I see (I'm a stay at home dad early in the day), and TXT messages if you have copies are evadince in court. hehe
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    The Blackjack 2 shipped with Windows Mobile 6.0 and can be upgraded to 6.1 (6.5 if you hack it). There was never a Windows Mobile 2.0 or 2.1 lol.

    As for viruses on Android, Android is a Linux SYSTEM. That does not mean that any virus out there for Linux would work on your Droid if you put it on the SD card. The code would need to be repackaged and as of now, the only known virus was removed by Google, Trojan-SMS.AndroidOS.FakePlayer.a.

    This app disguised itself as "Movie Player" and played videos at a choppier bit rate than the stock player and constantly forced closed, while in the background sent texts to premium text message numbers, racking your bill up. Did Lookout detect that this app was doing this and delete it from people's systems? No, because Lookout wasn't aware of the app until Kapersky noticed it and informed Google, who promptly deleted it.

    An antivirus is only as good as the predefined list of code that it searches for, much like with any Windows, Linux, or Mac machine. When it comes to viruses on any system, the best antivirus is called "Common Sense." This program is actually in your brain and asks questions before you install things, like "How many stars does this app have/how popular is this program?" or "Why don't I search Google or the comments section and see what other people who have this program/app think of it?" or "What does this app offer that the stock video player on this machine does not?" Also, whenever you download an app, it tells you which services it can and will use. So who would install an app that blatantly asks if it can have the permission to send SMS messages? And why would a video player need to do this?

    If I download an app, I make sure it has over 10,000 downloads first and at least 4 stars, or I'll download blindly if I know who the developer is. Slydial is the only app I have under 4 stars, out of 81 apps (I just checked). And most PC viruses come from people trying to get something for free. Sometimes you need to pay a few bucks for something good, and bypassing that and the law can sometimes cost you your data.

    As for Lookout, I've been using it for 6 years and WinMo and Android. Great application, just keep Antivirus off to conserve battery.
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    I like what you wrote, but I just wanted to say that a trojan is not a virus.

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    Antivirus can't help a user who installs untrusted software. Antivirus on Android is a ridiculous waste because there are no known Android viruses.
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    I hate the argument of "Trojans don't replicate so they're not considered viruses." They are malware and pose a security threat, and that is the general topic of this thread, regardless of whether they replicate or are installed unknowingly/foolishly. We are talking about antiviruses, and every one that I know of will detect known Trojans.
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    I hear you. I just think that the difference is important because a trojan requires the user to let their guard down and do something stupid (uninstall untrusted software). A virus requires no action on the part of the user. My main point is that trojans are pretty easy to avoid by educating the user.

    Viruses are mainly avoided by keeping all of your software up to date. Antivirus plays catch up.
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    Glad I found a good thread on antivirus. I use antivirus pro but after reading this thread promptly deleted it as I agree with others that its not a problem now. I am however concerned that with all the increased Android hype and sales that it will become a problem in the future.

    The only virus so far has been the Trojan-SMS.AndroidOS.FakePlayer.a. and affected only individuals in Russia. We didn't get the experience of this one but if we did I'm sure more users would be speaking their mind in this thread. It is stupid that lookout or any antivirus app didn't find this virus but I sure hope that in the future we get a steady and updated frequently antivirus app as I see problems in the future.

    I am pro starting a thread (don't know if one exists haven't looked yet) that keeps up do date on viruses, trojans, malware, etc so that droid users understand and know right away what to do or how to fix it.
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