Dust off the old adb commands

Discussion in 'Samsung Galaxy Nexus' started by pc747, Dec 5, 2011.

  1. pc747

    pc747 DF Administrator Staff Member Rescue Squad

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    For those of you who have been use to one clicks abut do not want to wait for a one click or just want to get refreshed on adb to unlock your nexus Im posting some snippets that I found on the web.


    ^the above is the Nexus S (this is just meant to get you up to speed what is going on)

    (from: theunlockr.com/2010/12/17/how-to-root-the-samsung-nexus-s/)



    (from: How to: Unlock the Galaxy Nexus Bootloader – Droid Life: A Droid Community Blog)
     
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    Honestly I wish the new methods and easier methods were never found. It was much better back when rooting was hard and people tended to shy away. Only people who had faith in their skills would try to complete it, and people barely ever bricked their phone.
     
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    Ahhh, the old "I'm better because I can follow a tutorial" argument. The only thing one clicks have done is saved time.

    And very, very, very few people actually brick their phones (stuck in bootloader, bootloops, etc. are not bricks). And there's certainly no correlation with the availability of one click root scripts. If anything, they prevent people from fouling things up.
     
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    When did I ever say I'm better than anyone? I know near nothing on the grand scheme of all of android. The only people "better" than any of us are the devs. And literally everyone is (should?) be able to follow a tutorial. But one click root has done more than save time. We have an entire rescue squad now because people are "bricking" their phones. Theres hundreds of people asking the same things, giving the same steps they did, and RS has to give the same answers every time. From your join date I can tell you weren't here way back before, but if you care enough go look at the archives. People barely ever hurt their phone. Instead of going, "I don't really understand what root or romming means, but who cares, I can just click one button and have it work!", people would know they weren't capable of doing it themselves. Does that mean they shouldn't root/rom? Of course not, you can talk to someone you know and have them explain everything and show you. One Click and other scripts DO create more "bricked" phones then there would be without. Thats not an opinion.

    And yes, I used brick in a way I shouldn't. But really, thats one of the things you choose to debunk what I said with? Really...? I used quotes this time, happy? :dry:
     
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    Because the influx of problem threads has nothing to do with the explosion of the Android user base... More users, more will have problems. The problem with your argument is mistaking correlation for causation.

    Sorry for derailing the thread, pc. Thanks for the post. Should come in handy. My upgrade isn't until the 23rd though, unfortunately.
     
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    Glad to see this didn't turn uncivilised, it's always a touchy subject when discussing One-Clicks versus adb pushing and rooting. I for one think it's more useful to use the command line for the simple facts that it is more fun, if you pay attention to what you are doing you learn what is going on to some extent, in learning what is going on you can correct mistakes if you make them, it breaks down the process into steps that don't require a person to wait and have patience and "let the computer do its thing".

    One-Clicks have their place and let more people with less knowledge have access to a rooted device, but that does mean that there is a correlation between looping devices and One-Clicks. If they were never released then less people would root = less looping devices and hence less need for a rescue squad. Statistically speaking it is correlated and significant if looking at it from a pure numbers standpoint. (Sorry, just finished a semester of stats)

    Anyway, back on topic, thanks for posting this up, I haven't used the trusty old adb commands in a while since my D1 is at the edge of its life.

    Hopefully, the GN will release this week and I can turn the D1 into my alarm clock/USB thumb drive.
     
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    I am not against one-clicks in fact I first got into it thanks to a simplified form in sholesmod. With that said it would be better in the long run for people to atleast know what the script is doing and know about adb. This will help people understand what is happening and take their time before rushing into anything. Please keep it civil the thread is meant to share knowledge.
     
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    One-clicks do have their place. There have been times when I updated or when back to stock for warranty issues and when I got my new device the one click was faster. With that said it does not hurt for people to learn adb. It really isnt that hard and by having an idea what is going on you can pick up if something goes wrong with a script. I remember a one click script that kept stalling at 50%. Instead of waiting on the dev to get back to me I was able to open the command line and just finish it.
     
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    100% agree with you. Knowing what is happening to your device even if you are running a script is a good thing to have knowledge of. I personally won't use one unless I write it myself for the simple fact that I don't like letting the computer "do its thing". That might sound snooty or elitist or whatnot, but it's just the fact that sometimes software loses its mind or another process interrupts a line of code or a call to something and things can go downhill quickly, and I would rather not take that chance with a phone.
     
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    Again, correlation is not tantamount to causation. Plus you make a couple of really hard to quantify assumptions. You just had stats? You should know better.

    But let's look at it, from a pure numbers standpoint, if you will :p . Android sales were ~5.5 million units in Q1 2010. Last quarter? 60.5 million. I'd say there's probably a stronger correlation with the increase in overall users.

    Round and round we go.
     
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    Definitely agreed. And we're all having fun here I think.
     
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    The devs that code scripts do a good job. With that said, scripts do fail and I dont know how many times people have panicked because of it and they dont know what to do.
     
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