Droid-X Verizon 3G assigning 10. (NAT) IPs

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    This is incredibly frustrating.. until 2 days ago my phones & service have worked just fine and Verizon would always assign the ppp (3G) interface on my DROID (& other phones win mobile etc.) a real pingable and reachable PUBLIC IP address..

    Suddenly (no changes on my end) they are assigning me a NATted
    dynamic ip of 10.224.X.X which is of course NOT reachable from the outside world!!

    No answers from 8 hours of tech support and escalating the issue yet.

    I've talked to 10 people and 2 'supervisors' an engineer and one 'NOC liason' so far.. none of which even knows what the term "NAT" means.
    That is the frustrating part...
    Everyone I've spoken to has told me if I can browse the web that there's
    no problem with the service.

    I've tried unrooting and also factory resetting the phone (Droid-x) all of
    which have no influence... Verizon *is* indeed assigning from a 10.x
    natted firewalled IP address pool..

    I'm not sure if this sudden change is global or just in my area or if it's some kind of temporary test or work-around on Verizon's part.
    Ever so frustratingly they won't put me through (yet) to anyone who can tell me WTF is going on and why the change 2 days ago.

    If they're going to play like this they just lost a loyal 10+ year customer and I hope they loose a whole lot more..

    This is the degrading **** that ISPs who don't believe in providing actual Internet pull and I'll have no part in supporting or living with it.

    Main point I'll finally make now is if your Have a Droid on Verizon.. could you kindly check & see if you are still getting a public IP like normal or some Natted 10.x.x.x IP?

    Oddly all of our Windows mobile phones are still getting public IPs.

    I'm the oddball with Android and don't yet have another point of reference. ;-)

    It was fine and *was* getting a dynamic public for 2+ months until now.
    I have made no software changes that would have or could have caused this.

    My next test will be to move my acct to my old winmobile phone & test..
    But I'm pretty sure they are forcing the NATted IP out only to Droid users.
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    I just tested with my Incredible, and I am also getting a 10. address. This is new, but not unexpected with the world running out of IPv4 addresses, Verizon may have decided to be a good corporate Internet citizen and stop handing out IP real IP addresses to their millions of customers, most of whom don't need it and for whom virtually any use would be a violation of their terms of use anyway (no servers allowed....).

    Does kind of suck though. I haven't researched yet, are these devices capable of IPv6? Could we be getting real IPv6 addresses simultaneous to getting NAT IPv4 addresses?

    Alan
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    Sorry, how does one check this?
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    Yeah, what he said...


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    Easiest is to install this app [app brain link]

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    Same Here

    I too am getting a Natt'd 10.X.X.X address. I have had a problem with VPN access that started about a month ago. I thought it was a rom or kernel issue. I can log into the VPN concentrator but once logged in I couldn't reach any of our internal devices. Guess what, we run 10 addresses on our network so I can't use my phone any more to access devices like I could before. Please let me know if you find anything out about this if it could be an option to get a real IP address.
    I understand though that they have probably quickly run out of IP addresses with the popularity of the android OS.
    Thanks for posting this...I finally know what the issue has been.
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    Find out what the next octet after the 10 is on your work network. In the four times I have looked after making and breaking a data connection in the past two days, I have gotten 3 different second Octets from Verizon (250 twice, 253 once and 254 once). To use your VPN, it may be as simple as making and breaking your data connection a couple of times until you get a different second octet (and making sure your VPN software has the subnet mask set to 255.255.0.0 or smaller. In fact, if you can get away with setting the subnet to 255.255.255.0 you can share all but the last octet with Verizon without worrying about overlap, but then you can only see 255 addresses in the same small address range, so probably not practical.

    Alan
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    Curious what cities you guys are in. I just stopped by the verizon store at Union Station in DC on my way home from work (broke my holster for the 4th time) and they were telling another customer how internet access has been a little flaky across the city due to the LTE upgrades. I am wondering if the change to NAT addressing is related to the new LTE capable radios.
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    10.xxx as well

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    Thanks! 10.xxx here too.
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    10.xxx as well here
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    Same as well here in North Alabama...10.xxx...
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