Just came back from a Verizon store and checked out both the Pre Plus and Incredible. The Pre Plus was definitely a little quicker than my Sprint Pre was but not by much. I wasn't blown away by anything in particular and it was still somewhat laggy, taking several seconds to launch apps in general. Sadly it really can't hold a candle to the current Android phones. HP has their work cut out for them is all I can say. And webOS just doesn't seem as appealing after using Android for so long. The coolness with the cardview just doesn't do it for me anymore. The guy at the store told me he no longer pushes them because there have been so many returns. Ok on to the Incredible. I went in there all big and badass with my modified Droid thinking I wasn't going to be wowed in the least. Well, in short, I walked away impressed!! Sense is nice but I could live without it. However the speed and responsiveness was what really got me and the screen was nicer than I expected. And while it's not as sharp as the Droid's technically, to see the difference I'd have to put them side by side and stare at them for a while which makes the whole argument kinda moot. The camera was TOP NOTCH and the browsing was very quick with pinch zoom being equally as quick and very smooth. The hardware didn't feel as substantial as the Droid but it felt solid enough and I'd have no qualms owning that phone. The keyboard's responsiveness was also impressively quick and although I prefer the feel of actual keys, typing on the Incredible was surprisingly easy. Honestly I was hard pressed to find anything negative to harp on. He told me the battery life is an issue which can easily be dealth with with a spare. I'm still keeping my Droid, but I have to admit, the Incredible is somewhat tempting.