Hey Guys.. We can turn this into a "incredible In Hands" discussion until root has come to be.. Here are some of my best findings: The signal bars seem to not pass 2 bars...? K, this was checked.. I called Big Red and they advised of the diff in hardware(s).. I said hmm.. your programmed to say that.. Let alone and behold we have a N1 sort of issue but without the 3G Probs.. I saw a thread on this.. it's not biggie.. Really guys, this isn't a nexus with modem issues (no pun).. and btw, it's BIG red.. right? The sense-ui is damn snappy.. the new qualcomm 8650 packs balls.. The screen is amazing.. the sound and call quality is "incredible" as so it the loud speaker.. just like the droid.. The live wallpapers work smooth without hitch.. Also the N1 paper does (Market) So, eh, that left me grounded..