Droid Bionic won't play streaming video on hdmi out?

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  1. kodiak799

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    That's all I care about. Honestly, I don't get the obsession over streaming. In fact, I hate the fact it's so difficult to get any sort of digital copy legally period, because if I'm on the train or an airplane that's when I would watch something on my D1 or a computer.

    But with internet speeds what they are, you can d/l something pretty quickly. With LTE you'd be able to d/l an hour long program pretty quickly.
     
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    streaming...

    If you want to watch a movie on the train or on an airplane you can rent them at the station/airport, or you can download them threw aps on the phone. The obsession with streaming is wanting to watch things live on tv. I have no intrest in watching a football game 2 days after it happened. Most of the time I am in a remote location while at work and I hear of sporting events second hand, or with updates of what hapend an hour ago. Getting an update every 30 seconds on yahoo or whatever just isn't the same as watching an event live.
     
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    Not sure what the problem would be.
    I can perfectly steam to HDMI, as long as the internal playback engine is used (Gallery).

    I just tried it on my DX using one of my streaming trailers, tapped the HDMI icon and voila on tv while streaming.

    Games take up more resources, so why wouldn't video work?
     
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    I am also wondering why the streaming would not work from say hulu or netflix through the HDMI? I can record on the DX 720p video, and play it back through the tv. Doesn't seem to choke the phone at all. Granted, it's far more compressed than bluray... but there is no benefit to watching bluray on a phone or tablet anyway. Being able to watch a 1080p rip of bluray in a more compressed format should be possible via the HDMI tho. With dual-core processors, much faster gpu, more ram, I can't see why it wouldn't be possible.
     
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    cmon people it is a phone not a high def cable box streaming family vids in hdmi or things stored on sdcard would be perfect. but trying to stream netflix or hulu to a tv is getting out of hand. i mean in the point of going to a motel how many tv's in a motel actually have a high def plug? in the car how many portables have a hdmi plug? just be happy with the portability you are asking for way to much.
     
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    Agree Jason. The only reason at all I can think of trying to stream a movie over HDMI out is exactly as you said..if you went say on vacation and the TV was LCD with HDMI input, but didn't want to pay the $20 a minute to watch a movie hotels charge you ;). But even then.. you're on vacation.. go out! lol. I think the bonus of HDMI out is to do what you said.. watch videos you shot, or copied, to share with others when you're not at home. I can't imagine buying a device like this to be my main video output device for movies, streaming netflix etc. You can buy $50 dvd players with netflix built in, most consoles now have it, and almost all tvs and blurays are now coming with it. If you got an old tv..its a moot point.

    To be fair, when I got my wife the Droid X instead of Droid 2, it was specifically the HDMI out that sold me on it (well..the screen size too). I've used it once, only to see it work. It's not that big a deal to me, just a nice to have if/when needed.
     
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    probably not many motels, but a lot of decent hotels :))) have LCD tv's that should have HDMI ports (although I'm sure they're cheaper models, have never looked to see what can be hooked up)

    My main reason is I want to stream a slingbox to my hotel tv, although I'd usually have my computer so it would be a non-issue I suppose. The caveat being you sometimes pay thru the nose for hotel internet and that's where the smartphone comes into play.
     
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    motel/hotel tomato/tomato still means same thing and i spend a good portion in them. and unless you are in vip rooms you get an old tubestyle tv lol. as far as internet tether your phone to laptop wont have to use pricey inet

    and just because it is lcd it dont mean it is hdmi hdmi is what 2 years old not everyone is gonna replace their tv's as soon as new tech is released that would defeat their purpose

    is hulu and netflix even fully hd? i got netflix and it isnt fully hdmi certain vids are tho
     
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    Never been able to get wireless tether to work very well, and when I have the d/l speeds are absolutely atrocious. Haven't tried PDAnet, but I have done some tethering for the exact reason you say.

    And, yeah, I stay in better hotels on the company dime than I would out-of-pocket.
     
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    Well I know netflix's hd standard is vc-1 720p, or atleast they claim to be. The 4g phones aren't even out yet. I know that 3g phones with the slingbox app can display the video threw hdmi. The only thing holding it back on the 4g phones would be an app written for that phone. Right now the app is just for the droid x. One of the reasons if not the main reason you can't watch the screen and the hdmi at the same time, is due to the lack dual video suport in the phones software. I know you can't use the block buster app because program thinks there is a conflict with the size of the screen. You can google a better explantion, or look on this forum for more info. I know you can't use netflix because the phones don't support seachlight, or whatever they call it.

    The new phones atleast the droid bionic have dual video out. So being able to see the video on both screens could be possible. As for being able to stream a compressed version of hd, example, vc-1 to the the 4g phones and then out threw hdmi, it's just a matter or an app developer writting the app and putting it in the app store.
     
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    the reason Blackcharger and I were talking so much about the hardware and data...is because this BS war going on right now will eventually end it always does, and everyone will find a way to play nice together. This is common in the industry. Every time there is a change in format or in delivery there is always a war between at least two of the big electronics manufacturers (Sony is always one of them). Each company develops their own technology and argues it is best. Then the two sides go out and try and sign as many exclusives as possible to kill the other tech. Eventually, Sony wins and the better technology dies. Anyone who knows BetaMax will agree it was better than VHS, and Sony's BluRay beat Toshiba's HD DVD which again was a better format as it had a solid defined industry standard unlike BluRay which meant fewer compatibility issues with older disc on newer machines our newer discs on older machines.

    Now we have a new war in the next evolution of content delivery. And once again you have fragmentation. Hulu, Netflix, Blockbuster, Amazon...all have their own exclusives and their own proprietary software. As the market matures and everyone squeeze as much cash out as the can in the early wars...this will end and there will be a standard format and standard hardware for playback regardless of the device type or the service provider. But until someone big goes bankrupt and closes that division or goes out of business entirely...we will see more of this.

    As for DRM...that is an old red herring. Another thing that pops up every time a new format comes out. Every person in the industry knows DRM is essentially just a ticking clock...the hackers/pirates/people who really want it...will eventually crack any encryption. I mean if what we see with our phones is not enough proof....just ask Sony. One of their greatest arguments when trying to convince each of the studios to go with them (aside from alleged cash payouts to the company) was that they had 4 layers of encryption. If I remember correctly...there is a layer for each particular title (ie Shrek's is different from Spiderman's and so on), A studio leyel assigned to the studio that is putting out the title (ie Disney vs Paramount vs MGM), replicator level (each manufacturing plant has its own layer) and then a Master which was the ultra-incredible last resort which was said to be impossible to break. And I believe just a few months ago Hackers cracked the master code.
     
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    Not so much a problem...really a clearer understanding of what we are really talking about.

    So just because a device has HDMI and says it outputs ESPN at 720P does not mean that the end result will be as good as ESPN HD on Fios played back in 720p. HDMI and 720P or 1080p are not the only important factors. You have the quality of the original recording, quality of the signal or data, bit rate, compression rates, and codecs. Any one of these factors can compromise an HD picture.

    Now I admit I am coming from an audiophiles point of view. For those people who cannot tell the difference or don't care as long as it is better than SD then I would say that most of what we have discussed can and will be done this year (although I doubt that VZW will allow that kinda data drainage so you wont want to due to their fees ...or they will cap the phones to a point where there will need to be buffering time before something can start playing or you will have to download the entire file then play back).
     
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