Disrespectful Android Users

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  1. UrbanBounca

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    The time has come. What time you may ask? It's the time that Android users are gradually turning into disrespectful, greedy punks. Android users disrespect any product, other than their own, and it's come to the point where many Android users are disrespecting developers because they can't put out a perfect ROM on the first attempt. I'm guilty of this myself, and I'm not scared to admit it because I vow to change.

    The reason I've created this thread is to make Android users come to the realization that developers do their work for free (in most cases). It takes hours upon hours to compiling and testing to produce even a "decent" ROM.

    We've seemed to have lost one of our best developers for the reason I've given above. Matt has quit developing for Android users. Matt was one of the very few developers with the skill to actually compile a completely AOSP ROM, and we seem to have lost him.

    I'm not making this thread to gripe, but I'm making it to keep in mind that Android is an operating system. It's a phone operating system, not a lifestyle, and in the end, it just doesn't matter. There is no reason to be disrespecting any developer, no matter how terrible you may think their ROM may be. They're trying for the benefit of everyone.

    Matt, the best of luck my friend. I talked to you a few times outside of DF.net, and you're a good guy. I hope we see another ROM from you one day, but like you said, it's not worth taking gripe from someone over a damn piece of software. Good luck, man.
     
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    This was also brought up in the androidcentral podcast (eppisode 50). Glad people are coming around to address the issue. Thanx for posting!
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    As an operating system becomes more popular and attracts the masses, you're guaranteed to pull in a few bad apples. Shocker, I know.

    End of the world? No. But if you want Android to become a more popular operating system, you're going to have to put up with a few of these jerks. Same with being a dev for iOS.

    People stink. That's an unfortunate fact.
     
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    It is sad that folks treat others this way especially, as pointed out, they are working for free which takes them away for their families and other responsibilities. Thankfully, the majority of the community is grateful to the developers, donate, and respect their work.

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    I'm going to open this thread back up but I want everyone to understand one thing. What you say in this forum has to be within our guidelines. That means you can't use words that are offensive or obscene. So far I've had to edit two posts and at least one of you should know how we run things around here.

    Go ahead and express yourself but keep it clean or not only will the thread be shut down, infractions will be issued as well.
     
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    gonna have to say he's right. I mean I read stuff all the time regarding Dev's and their apps or ROM's. I can honestly tell you the ONLY thing that gets me upset is lack of support. IF you create an app....and you don't support or update it....then it is only a matter of time till you see 1 star next to it and a bunch of bad comments being left on the market. If you create a ROM and don't support it than you can expect to see people very quickly move away from your ROM and referring others away too.

    I understand that Dev's can't account for everything. People have different apps, theme's, Over clocking, under clocking, and all kinds of other stuff going on that they simply cannot account for. And in that aspect I totally defend them.

    But....when things like making a phone call are impossible on a ROM then yeah...as a noob and not a dev I perceive that as lazy or lack of quality control.

    Honestly.....I can't believe ROM's like LGB and Liberty are free....that is insane. If I knew how Liberty was going to run on my phone I would pay for it. Paid $500 for the phone....what's another $25 or so for a great ROM with support.

    Maybe that's what Dev's should do to compensate for the "not so friendly's". Free ROM but charge for support and extra's. Financial compensation seems to go a long way. Problem here is that very few are going to purchase a ROM blindly. Maybe do a 10 day trial or something.

    Sorry for the rant....that is just my opinion.

    To most of the Dev's out there....:yr1:....I say most because I am actually upset with one who's name I will not mention.
     
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    I agree with the OP that we should have a little more respect for the devs, but on the flip side, the devs do have to realize that they have to support their releases. There are some devs who'll disappear for months, drop a ROM, and disappear again. I'm sure no one expects 24/7 support, but there has to be some kind of attempt to make yourself available to answer questions. Even if it is for an hour a day...we all have jobs or are in school. If you're going to undertake something like creating a ROM, you have to provide some support regardless of how minimal it is...

    The "we do this for free so pity us" thing really doesn't mean much
     
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    exactly. the frustration with some devs comes from the lack of support, usually. I don't fault people who expect some kind of support for their ROMs. I don't know about paying for support though haha...I doubt that would be very popular, and I'm sure a dev who offers something like that won't get many buyers.
     
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    I could care less if devs get burned out and quit...for every 1 dev that quits...there are 20 more kids living in their mothers basement willing to fill the void and complain that they don't get paid what they are worth or that pirating is why they quit. Its a poor business model and people realize it and leave.

    Good luck in future endeavors, but no big loss to the 'industry' by any means

    Sent from my Droid 2 while driving. Thankyou Tapatalk
     
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    an operating system and not a lifestyle????? that's the sort of thing one of those pansy iphone people might say.

    just kidding.

    I do teasingly point out to my friends when i see them texting or doing something mundane that a droid could do more efficiently (like voice to speech instead of typing).
     
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    hookbill,

    My apologies for overlooking the bad language in my OP. I appreciate you leaving this open. People need to see it. Matt was important to the D2 community.

    I hope you don't use any free app's. None.

    Matt is a huge loss to the Android community. Matt is one of the very few people with the ability to create a true-AOSP ROM. If there are 20 people to take his place, please, point them out.

    As far as I know, there is cvpcs and Matt, and maybe one or two other people, that can create a true-AOSP ROM.

    People such as yourself are what I mean by completely disrespectful users.
     
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    I tend to agree with Gritwater. I don't even know who Matt is, and the android "community" as you call it is small as it is. Very few android owners root, and even fewer put ROMs on their phone. I agree in giving respect to devs, but...I'm not going to miss a dev if he decides to leave. Why exactly is he leaving? His twitter post is pretty cryptic. If he's as great as you say, I doubt people were abusing him and cursing him out. Clearly, it was a lack of support that people were complaining about and Matt, whoever that is, took offense to that because he thought he deserved some unfounded respect just because he created a ROM. There are plenty of other devs and the android community is not going to come to a standstill because one guy left. I think you're being a little dramatic.

    BTW Matt will be back. People who post these "I'm leaving, screw this" stuff always do. Another common one is "I'm going to spend time with my family because this is taking over my life"...then a week later they post again. Not anything new.
     
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