Curiosity: Why Root the D3?

Discussion in 'Motorola Droid 3' started by AHiLdesigns, Aug 13, 2011.

  1. AHiLdesigns
    Offline

    AHiLdesigns New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2010
    Messages:
    23
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    OH
    From my admittedly limited understanding, the best benefits of having root access allows for different ROMs, overclocking, and other miscellaneous custom developments (internal and cosmetic). That said, it made a ton of sense to me for people to want to get more out of preceding phones. But right now I'm looking at this badass little D3 and I'm thinking to myself: it's already blazing fast; the UI improvements are slick and attractive, and there's virtually an app for everything with the market growing every day.

    Clearly I'm not a tech guru, so please do forgive me if you find this thread as a glaring insult---I'm genuinely only looking to further my understanding of why we would want to Root the D3? Am I missing something huge?
  2. pigpen
    Offline

    pigpen New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2009
    Messages:
    190
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    bronx ny
    There are 26 apps i would remove as soon as root is achieved.
    1 person likes this.
  3. The_Rick_14
    Offline

    The_Rick_14 New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2011
    Messages:
    182
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    The ridiculous amount of uninstallable apps has even me considering root on this one and I'm a guy who doesn't like to mess with my devices too much.
  4. Malvado
    Offline

    Malvado DF News Team/Mod Premium Member

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2009
    Messages:
    1,993
    Likes Received:
    15
    Trophy Points:
    38
    +1...too much, and I mean TOO MUCH bloat

    Sent from my DROID 3 directly to YOU!
  5. Yonnor
    Offline

    Yonnor I r Teh Greetest

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2011
    Messages:
    813
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Location:
    San Diego
    To remove bloat, and I miss the extra level of access root provides you. Once you have a rooted phone, and then go to a non-rooted phone its like torture :(
  6. Venom51
    Offline

    Venom51 New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2009
    Messages:
    61
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Because when you spend 600 bucks or so on a device it should be yours to do with as you wish. Even when subsidized on a contract you are still paying for the device. It shouldn't be locked up and inaccessible to anyone but the carrier.
    2 people like this.
  7. tgyberg
    Offline

    tgyberg Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2009
    Messages:
    3,824
    Likes Received:
    239
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Location:
    Minneapolis, Minnesota
    TB and nandroid back ups are also pure awsomeness!
    1 person likes this.
  8. pyro6128
    Offline

    pyro6128 New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2010
    Messages:
    1,525
    Likes Received:
    8
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    NYC
    Because the phone is going to be so much faster without all of the preloaded crap constantly running. Plus root apps, backups, etc
  9. spunker88
    Offline

    spunker88 New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2011
    Messages:
    62
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I want to get rid of the Verizon bloatware, and having it rooted will make custom ROMs a lot easier in the future when Moto/Verizon stop supporting new Android versions on it.
  10. Ragnell
    Offline

    Ragnell New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2010
    Messages:
    107
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    New York City
    For Custom roms with tons of better features
  11. AHiLdesigns
    Offline

    AHiLdesigns New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2010
    Messages:
    23
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    OH
    Definitely am not disagreeing with you guys... valid points on all! Thank you. I must admit that they're points I can't really apply to myself though. I'm going to think outloud on it... feel free to bust my chops as you see fit! :)

    My pragmatic side still is kind of chuckling at the idea that a product meant to deliver myriad usable apps would result in a consumer base who would rather root their phone to have apps built in than just use them as per the phones inherent composition. But I do have to agree its slightly lame to not have the ability to uninstall them.

    The most pressing argument here of interest to me is the one regarding future use---when they stop supporting the OS on the particular model you own. See, it makes a ton of sense as a general consumer that when you fork out this kind of money that you'll get a lasting product. But as we know, realistically, this really isn't the case with the phones of today. If they're not making your phone to do new tricks with each new release, you've no want to upgrade. Sad, but true. So its thoughtful in a way to root your phone for that purpose I guess... but even then you'll still eventually land yourself in the void of technology obsoletion. Its just inevitable, even if its been extended by rooting.

    The politics of ownership.... that argument is genuinely cool. But a bit boring to me personally. I really don't care about the ins and outs of contract vs cash. That's an ideal, and not even really one that could ground itself with a realist. In fact, its more giving the finger than it is actually attempting to make a change. But for me? I just want my phone to work as depicted, and as flawlessly as possible... because like I said before, obsoletion is always the end outcome with technology. There's never going to be an end-all-be-all of smart phones. Supply vs demand dictates that fact. Sobevven if we all literally owned our phones, you'd just end up storing it with your 8 tracks, atari, and polaroid cameras.

    Fun thread! Next!! Someone sell me on this please, lol

    Sent from my DROID3 using DroidForums
  12. guidot
    Offline

    guidot Developer Relations Staff Member Premium Member

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2010
    Messages:
    7,352
    Likes Received:
    274
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Location:
    Massachusetts
    Yes but you also have to realize the speed at which these devices are upgraded, compared to how often the OS is updated.

    I've wanted about 4 phones since I got my D1 almost 2 years ago. But it still works fine with the ability to update/ROM the phone to the smoothest ROM available. We have 2 year contacts. If I was stuck without root on this phone, I would have already upgraded again, because even vanilla android with some Verizon bloat would suck this into oblivion.

    My $.02
  13. AHiLdesigns
    Offline

    AHiLdesigns New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2010
    Messages:
    23
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    OH
    @guidot
    Agreed! But I think its more important to note that we're not just talking OS when it comes to smartphones, we're talking technology on the whole---which by default includes hardware.

    And yeah I totally hear you, I sat on my D1 with the same experience you did, wanting so many phones. I should have rooted. It would have made sense... but I didn't for inconsequential reasons. 2 years years is a hell of along time to wait, but it only is long by comparison. Specifically in comparison of your model vs the influx of better devices (which, to be fair to all, is actually consumer behavior training to keep you spending money).

    Thinking of it like that, a person would naturally make due with what they had if all of the smartphones were evenly weighted, regardless the amount of years passed. We did in the 90's with pagers, lol. With the current competitive market, I think the trend has already turned to hardware essentials vs lifestyle compatibility... with the best selling phones being those landing said keynotes in one stroke to their demographic.

    Which says to me, ultimately the hardware is going to keep getting better... which sums the consumer equation quite simply into: eventually your smoothed OS rom will never be able to compete in the patterned "5yr" countdown cycle to being uncomfortably behind the times.

    This D3 is a strong little phone though, you might just prove me wrong. Stupid time-will-tell scenarios! I need a TARDIS. ;P

    Sent from my DROID3 using DroidForums
  14. spacecasespiff
    Offline

    spacecasespiff New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2011
    Messages:
    451
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Here's the thing only a small number of android users root their phones. The majority of them don't even know about it. If you never visited any forums and went to any android web sites that talk about it you would know nothing about it. Its a big deal on all the forums that I go to and it gives the aperance that everyone does it. I find It funny when it dictates what phone people will buy now I see why people do it and I've rooted and did the rom thing on my dx for awhile but got bored with it. I got tired of looseing certain things that I liked on stock. Some of witch I could still use but not everything. I will root my d3 just to get rid of the bloatware but that it for me. I love android because of what it can do without having to root my phone that no outher phones can do. But I do see why people root their phones but its not for everone. I would just like to see an update more then anything.

    Sent from my DROID3 using DroidForums
  15. AHiLdesigns
    Offline

    AHiLdesigns New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2010
    Messages:
    23
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    OH
    @spacecasespiff
    Thank you for the sobering words. You know, I hadn't really thought much about the amount of people who root, so I find that pretty interesting! You must be right, because I've mentioned it to friends and always have to overview what it is, lol.

    I must be more like you so far. Except I really don't mind the bloatware. Its not slowing me down any... but I only have 30 or so apps installed. This system is so sound compared to my D1, I don't really feel like I need half the apps I was using before for customization & workflow/productivity.

    Sent from my DROID3 using DroidForums
  16. PetRiLJoe
    Offline

    PetRiLJoe New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2010
    Messages:
    279
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Opelika, AL
    Do it!

    @AHiLdesigns [OP]

    I read each of your posts and you certainly have made some good arguments against rooting the phone. Therefore I must agree with a lot of what you say and have similar opinions.

    For you I recommend not rooting, especially if you can't find a good reason for yourself! In my own defense, possibly as well as others, rooting is cool. I've been bit by the "bug", and I want to do more than what the average user can do with their phone if that person has the exact same phone. ENJOY your phone, and don't root it! Learn it in-and-out prior to rooting it so that you have a GOOD comparison of how your phone works in a completely stock state. Only when you get bored, and are seeking a little more life out of your phone, holding back on upgrading to the next best thing, should you get look into rooting your phone.

    Like I said that is my personal opinion for you, and certainly may not apply to everyone.

    Good luck!
  17. AHiLdesigns
    Offline

    AHiLdesigns New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2010
    Messages:
    23
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    OH
    @PetRiLJoe

    Very sound advice! Thank you, I really appreciate it.

    Lol, I'm old & busy... so sometimes I forget things like interest based cool-factor. Though as a designer the temptation is there for me if only to redo the UI with my own work. I suppose sating the curiosity of learning it in general is probably pretty fun, too.

    Good shout, Joe!

    Sent from my DROID3 using DroidForums
  18. ItsTrentB
    Offline

    ItsTrentB Member

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2010
    Messages:
    217
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Location:
    Southern California
    Couldn't agree more with this !
  19. PetRiLJoe
    Offline

    PetRiLJoe New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2010
    Messages:
    279
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Opelika, AL
    Sure thing! Glad I could help.
  20. spacecasespiff
    Offline

    spacecasespiff New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2011
    Messages:
    451
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    That what I did I got a little bored and that's where I rooted my dx then missed stock and went back to stock I found out I liked it better

    Sent from my DROID3 using DroidForums
Search tags for this page

benefits of rooting droid 3

,
cowon d3 roms
,

droid 3 root benefits

,
how root cowon d3
,
how to root a tecno d3
,

how to root tecno d3

,
nandroid backup of tecno d3
,

root cowon d3

,
root master root tecno d3
,
root tecno d3
,
rooting tecno d3
,
tecno d3 not coming on