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Connecting to a thumbdrive?

Discussion in 'Android General Discussions' started by y6y6y6, Nov 20, 2009.

  1. y6y6y6
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    I haven't been able to connect an unpowered USB thumbdrive to my Droid. I can connect to a computer and everything works fine. But when I plug in a thumbdrive into the Droid directly I never get the USB icon in the notification bar. Anyone know how to make this work?
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    Are you meaning just plug in a flash drive to your phone?
    If so, it dosent work like that.
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    Right. Plug it into the Droid. I was able to do this with my Treo. Any idea why it wouldn't work with the Droid?
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    Y...You...you're doing it wrong.

    I find it hard to believe you actually plugged it into your droid. Now don't get me wrong, if you did, you are AWESOME. But in order to do so, you would have to get a micro usb to full usb adapter then plug the flash drive into the other end, and then connect it to the droid, which would now look more like FrankenDroid.

    But maybe you did.. adapters are lying around these days.

    As the above poster mentioned, it doesn't work this way. The Android OS (on the droid anyways) is not designed to mount flash drives.. maybe with a hack, but not now. It actually works the other way around.. by plugging your Droid into a PC (or mac) Android allows you to use your built in 16 gig sd card as a mountable volume.. just as your flash drive works when you plug it into your computer.

    I assume you want to do this to add files to your droid? I would suggest the much easier plan of connecting it to your computer, pulling down the notification bar to mount it as a drive, and dragging the files over. That ot just pop the battery out, take out the microsd card and put it in an adapter in your computers card reader to transfer files.

    Either way is going to be MUCH easier. good luck!
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    PS. I just checked out your site.. good stuff. It's obvious you know all the jazz about connecting to a pc.. and you probably did connect the drive to the droid.. good work mcgyver :) So to shorten my post:

    No, you cannot do that
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    Well, I did. My old Treo would work as a USB host port, I was just wondering why the Droid wouldn't.

    I did a bit more research and more detail can be found here -
    Issue 738 - android - I hope Android will implement and support the USB host feature - Project Hosting on Google Code

    Short version - People have been clamoring for a long time to have Android devices work as a USB port host, and indications are that the hardware would support it. But Neither Google or the hardware manufacturers seem to be playing ball. This is, in my opinion, tragic. And I don't think I'm exaggerating at all (looking right at you Motorola) when i say tragic. Just look through that thread and you'll see the vast potential. The stuff my Treo could do with this was pretty amazing.
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    USB hosting would certainly be useful, but till someone comes up with a hack or Motorola fixes this any cheap netbook will AC as a hub for you.
    I've got one running Linux that has several USB ports so it would work.
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    USB hosting would certainly be useful, but till someone comes up with a hack or Motorola fixes this any cheap netbook will AC as a hub for you.
    I've got one running Linux that has several USB ports so it would work.
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    What is the use case for this? Outside transfering files with someone who has a flash drive, I don't see the point. Really, how often do you need to do that where there isn't a PC around? Calling this one tiny thing tragic is a bit much...
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    Really........

    So when I'm out in the woods taking photos with my DSR, and I want to upload a few to the web, you think that's worthless? I ended up doing that almost daily with my Treo.

    And yes, of course you can plug it into a Netbook. But one of the ideas behind the Droid is that it *is* your netbook solution, just scaled down. I shouldn't have to carry another piece of hardware just to plug in a card reader. Especially when the Droid is so close to doing this out of the box from a hardware standpoint.

    Assuming drivers would be written, things that you'd be able to connect to your Droid if it could act as a USB host -

    keyboard
    external harddrives
    flash drives
    printers
    scanners
    monitors
    web cams
    USB hubs
    cameras
    Arduino devices
    headphones
    music players
    serial adapters
    projectors
    etc.....

    So yes, I'm calling it tragic and I'll stand by that. The cool thing about the Droid is that I have a scaled down netbook that fits in my pocket. Adding USB on-the-go would be wildly better than forcing me to carry around *another* netbook just to get this functionality.
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    I with ya there.....But some people are never happy.
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    I'm actually with y6y6y6 on this one now. He knows a lot more about it than I thought he did, so I retract my original reply, I too think there would be really cool options if this were possible. As far as it being "tragic" well that's to each their own :)
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    This is a phone, NOT a netbook. Adding drivers and support for all those devices has a very good potential of making the device utterly unstable and unsupportable. As a result, you would end up with a Windows Mobile phone that does not appeal to the non-technical mass audience.

    We may be technical, but we desperately want this phone to success not with us, but with the average Joe, because they spend money on apps and that brings developers to the platform and that makes the platform thrive, not just succeed.

    And before anyone jumps down my throat, I am not saying Android should be an iPhone and be completely closed, but there has to be some limits. For those that don't want to be limited, you can just root your phone.
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    i got my droid on friday the 6th and didn't TOUCH my netbook until the following monday, and only because i was in a verizon dead zone at a friend's house with no wifi.

    netbook replacement? maybe not entirely, but mostly..
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    Y6y6y6 is right, being able to attach any device to the droid would be awesome. Even now I'm totally planning to travel without a laptop and just use the Droid, but the biggest issue is that I can't attach anything extra to it...just another microSD would be nice. Maybe scanners and monitors are little extreme, but for us Droid-as-netbook people implementing this concept would be fantastic.

    All I want to do is be able to directly backup photos from my cameras onto it. Of course I could take the battery out and swap microSDs and so on, but that's a huge pain...I'm still looking for possible solutions.

    (Posted from my Droid - besides this issue who needs a netbook?)
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    I'm with the OP on this one. They SHOULD implement this. C'mon Mr. Open Source Google, open up your Android to all of us! :)

    Here's my perfect scenario for usb host.. keeping my keypass file on my usb watch which I will never lose and any time I need to open the keypass file, just plug it right into the phone and badaboom! That way if I happen to leave my phone or it gets ripped, at least my kepass file is still with me.
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    No offense, but your reasoning is totally off. First off, as you can see this phone may not be a netbook, but it does indeed replace one for a large percentage of users. not you? Well that's fine, but that doesn't apply to everyone. I was planning on getting a netbook on Black Friday, and now that I have my droid, I find I won't need one. I spend all of my desk time on my quad core, with 8 gigs of memory, a 7 Mbt line and two 24' Dells (not saying any of that to sound pompous of course. These days that is not that impressive at all.. especially with what some of the ubergeeks on here probably run :) So yeah, I do most of my computing on an actual computer. But do I need to spend another 300 bucks on a tiny netbook with a tiny screen that strains my eyes on long useage that is only powerful enough to let me check my email, do some light web browsing and watch some movies/music? When I can do all that plus GPS, apps, games, sms calls video photos and a high speed signal whereever I go already? .. I just don't see the need. In my personal opinion. A normal laptop? sure, I can totally see that.

    And as far as the drivers for peripherals "making the device utterly unstable and unsupportable". That's just silly. this device already incorporates code waay more intense than drivers, and if well written the Android OS could run them just fine. Plus, drivers are meant to be used by those who need them, so the only people who would actually install them, are those who want to run said peripherals.

    There are already hundreds of crappily coded apps in the Market that are way worse for your Droid than installing a driver. it wouldn't be a problem at all.

    And before the iphone and Android (and even blackberry in some sense) Windows Mobile phones were the exact definition of mainstream. I don't know about you, but when I hear the word "Microsoft" the absolute first thing that comes to mind is "appeal to the non-technical mass audience". That's pretty much the definition of Microsoft. Now yes, the iphone and now Android are dominating the smartphone market and have made things even more simpler and more marketable to the mainstream, but the whole Windows Mobile thing is actually the exact opposite of what you said.

    So anyways, not trying to "jump down your throat", everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I totally agree with the OP in my humble one.
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    I'm not saying that the Droid is not a good Netbook replacement for a lot of people, it is. I find myself taking it out to look something up quickly when I'm at home and have access to both my laptop and my desktop. All I'm saying is that you can't call the lack of support for peripherals tragic if the device was never meant to provide support for those things.

    I have over 13 years experience in support and engineering and I'm telling you that adding official support for peripherals will make the device unsupportable by Motorola, Google and Verizon. Can you imagine the number of calls Verizon tech support would get from people who have connected the thousands of different printers, mice, keyboards, scanners, etc. etc. etc that exist? And what about peripherals that don't have drivers? Do they publish a list of supported manufacturers for each of the possible peripherals? Then there would be someone on this forum calling it a tragedy that their 4 year old HP printer isn't supported.

    For the Microsoft argument, yes Microsoft does appeal to the mainstream. But there are technical and economic reasons why they are dominant and it's way more complicated than just the products they make. The point I was making with Microsoft is that with all of their operating systems, they try to alway be backward compatible and support everything under the sun. As an example, the main reason Vista was such crap and Windows 7 is such a success is Microsoft recognizing that they need to start stripping out the legacy code. Yes, it will mean less functionality for SOME people, but it also means a much better experience for the other 95 percent of users.

    For those that want to have everything under the sun with their Droid, they can root. But that can't be something Moto, Google or Verizon officially support.

    Can someone who has had to develop a hardware or software solution and then deal with supporting that solution chime in? If I am way off base, let me know.
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    Please tell me your kidding with that?
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    The Android platform runs on a Linux kernel. To add driver support for certain types of hardware to a Linux-based OS, one must actually recompile the entire kernel. I don't think the average Droid user would be comfortable recompiling the entire kernel to add support for a USB peripheral. For one thing, if I understand it correctly, the device would have to be rooted to even allow a custom kernel to be installed.

    In Linux, it's not necessarily the simply "download a driver, plug device in, and it works" affair that it is in Windows.
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