Combined Inbox (Exchange & Gmail)

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  1. danwanna

    danwanna Member

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    I bounce back and forth between Android and WebOS a lot really like having the WebOS combined inbox view of my Exchange and Gmail accounts.

    I didn't realize this was possible until I was messing around this morning with my Froyo'ed Droid.

    1. Under Account Settings, Disable Email syncing of Gmail account (Leave Contacts, Calendar)
    2. Create new account in Email application and choose manual Exchange
    3. Domain\Username to "\[Email Address]"
    4. Enter password
    5. Enter m.google.com for the Server
    6. Make sure both SSL boxes are checked
    7. Make sure Sync Contacts and Sync Calendar boxes are unchecked

    I know you can sync Contacts and Calendar with the Exchange setup, but I was afraid that my starred contacts and wife's shared calendar wouldn't come over correctly.

    Anyway, I didn't find much when I was searching ways to do this so I figured I would post it here...

    Updated Warning: As pointed out by aminaked in the reply directly following this, there are some pretty serious bugs reported with the stock email client. I have not encountered any of them in my setup or with my wife's, but be warned that it is possible that you could have some strange and possibly bad results when using the stock email application.
     
    #1 danwanna, Aug 17, 2010
    Last edited: Aug 18, 2010
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    I'm using custom ROMs (LithiumMod at the moment) so I'm not sure if that is considered stock anymore, but I haven't had any of the issues you list with my Exchange account. This might be an Exchange vs SMTP(IMAP/POP) difference, but in either case I haven't had any issues.

    I previously used Touchdown for my Exchange email, but was sick of not being able to have a combined calendar view so I changed over to using the built in Email app instead. I'm going on 3 weeks now without a single issue.

    I might be in the minority on this as well, but I'm not a fan of the threaded email view that Gmail provides when I'm using the phone. I love it on my laptop, but there have been too many times where I've missed emails in a thread because I wasn't paying close enough attention in the Gmail app.
     
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    Android email app will start attaching random emails from the past (ones you've deleted and ones from other accounts) when you reply to an email. It sends base 64 encoded messages which appear as gibberish on some clients. It stops polling randomly.

    I used the stock app for about a month until it started to get wacky on me. You should use K9, Maildroid, Touchdown, or ANYTHING ELSE.
     
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    <offtopic>
    The Froyo email app on the Droid is just fine. I've been using it for awhile now and have no issues. Most of the bugs you linked to are old (saw one for Android 1.6). Others aren't that significant and if the user isn't having issues, who are you to tell us to switch? Do you work for K-9 or something?
    </offtopic>

    @danwanna Thanks for the info. I can confirm that this works for GMail.

    I'm a bit disappointed that it doesn't seem to work for Google Apps accounts. I tried m.google.com and it seems to setup fine, but never shows the inbox or any folders. I also tried mail.<domain>.com and m.google.com/a/<domain> to no avail.
     
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    @GolfProRM
    The account I have setup is my Google Apps account. Make sure you have enabled Google Sync for the domain.

    1. Login to your mail and choose Manage Domain (if you are admin)
    2. Expand the "Service settings" menu and choose "Mobile"
    3. Check "Enable Google Sync" and Save Changes.

    I had mine previously enabled so I didn't try it without this setting.

    @aminaked
    I've tried K-9 mail in the past (and just did again at your suggestion), but it will not connect to my Exchange server due to unsupported policies. It also doesn't support Calendar or Contacts on Exchange from what I can tell so it really doesn't help me much with the goal of having combined views.

    If we all just quit using the stock email client and submitting bug tickets, what motivation will Google have to resolve issues. It personally makes me a little nervous downloading relatively unknown email clients and configuring them to connect to my mail servers. Who knows what they are doing with your account information or emails. That combined with the fact that I'm sure there are bugs with these implementations as well.

    I'm sure K-9 is fine, but it is still a risk and I would prefer to stick with the standard Google apps when possible for things like this.

    That being said, I am using custom ROMs so I'm obviously not that much of security nut...

    Just my 2 cents...
     
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    K9 is open source so anyone can check out the code. Furthermore, I think the guys working on it work for Google as their Google Code site says they plan on rolling their work into the stock client at some point.

    If K9 doesn't work, I would normally recommend Touchdown for exchange but it isn't developed by Google.

    I'm just trying to make people aware of the issues with the stock email client. The stock email client is "fine" until it acts up.
     
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    K-9 rules. The stock email client is terrible.
     
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    @aminaked

    I do appreciate the feedback, but the solution you recommend doesn't work with my servers or meet my needs so I am looking for alternatives.

    At this time I haven't found any other way to get combined views of my inbox and calendar. I will take the time to further investigate the issues you linked to so I can make an informed decision.

    Just an FYI, I am pretty sure you are acting as a "test bunny" for K-9 Mail as well. Have you taken the time to review the Issues or Release Notes lists?

    K-9 Open Issues -> Issues - k9mail - Project Hosting on Google Code
    K-9 Release Notes -> ReleaseNotes - k9mail - Changes in each revision of K-9 - Project Hosting on Google Code

    I'm sure if you looked at Touchdown, Maildroid or any other piece of software that is developed by humans for humans you would find the same sort of thing. At my day job (don't need a gig at a lab) the project I lead also has a backlog of issues.

    That is the difficult thing about software development. It is relatively easy to write software that works with the primary use cases, but when you deviate into alternate flows, strange and difficult to reproduce bugs often occur. That is even more true in the case of mobile development as there are many variables (connectivity, server versions, user error, OS and API differences) that can contribute to those alternate flows.

    Please don't take any of this as a slam against you or K-9 Mail. From what I've read, K-9 seems like a very well run project and is meeting lots of people's needs. I just wanted to present a counter point.

    As for me, I've tried K-9 and Maildroid (my Exchange Server only supports EAS) as well as purchased and used Touchdown for 8+ months (works great with Exchange but doesn't support the combined views I am looking for).

    I also have 8+ months of my wife using the stock Email client on her Eris via IMAP and SMTP without a single issue.

    Since I mostly triage mail on my phone (read, flag, delete) and rarely send anything I am going to continue to try the solution while I check on the status of the bugs.
     
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    I'm a software dev. K9 is based on the stock client's code. It is continually updated and enhanced. The stock client has had the same open bugs for nearly a year. The scariest stock client bugs have been squashed in k9. K9's code will hopefully, according to the devs, be rolled into android. The choice is clear for me.

    I didn't appreciate the other poster thinking I had an agenda that wasn't altruistic. Who am I to say not to use the stock client? I'm the guy who's on this forum every day helping people figure out why their email is jacked. I'm the guy who's on the android and K9 google code sites checking out every new bug submission. I'm the guy who had to deal with problems with the stock client and who's nice/stupid enough to want to help total strangers avoid that mess.

    I appreciate your posts. I hope you find your answers.
     
    #12 aminaked, Aug 18, 2010
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