Clockworks Recovery vs. SPRecovery - PRO's & CON's. Which is better?

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    Okay, well, I've been using SPRecovery since I first put Droidmod, Bugless, etc on my Droid but lately I've been hearing about a new recovery method called Clockworks Recovery. Now, I've never heard of this recovery method till now, so I know nothing about it so I wanted to ask a few things about the people that DO know about it.

    What're the PRO's and CON's between SPRecovery and Clockworks recovery, and which one do you think is better.
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    SP Pros
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    Has the most support (for now).
    Allows for tgz installations, which give you greater options during installing ROM.
    Allows nandroid backups, partial or full.
    Allows update.zip rom installations (must be named only update.zip).
    Can do partial nandroid recoveries.


    Cons
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    Non standard--only the Droid community stores nandroids as tar files and uses tgz installation roms.
    Requires zip files to be named only update.zip.


    CW Pros
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    Couple with Premium ROM Manager, allows for OTA updates.
    Nandroid open source standard.
    Can browse SD Card.
    Does not require update.zip format. Any rom name.zip works.
    Updated more often than sprecovery.


    Cons
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    Not as widely used.
    Does not support tgz at all.
    Has had some growing pains, but is doing well now.
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    Can you use clockwork with any rom or just cyanogenmod?
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    Any non tgz ROM. So pretty much any thing but DroidMod and I think AdamZ (I think he recently went to tgz format).
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    ROM manager will flash either recovery with one click, also allows for OTA ROM updates and OTA ROM downloads (premium version is required for any ROM other than CM, which include bugless beast and ultimate droid ROMs)
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    Why would i pay Koush for Adamz BB?
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    Because you support the developer of the app?

    Like most programs, it exists out of convenience. No, you don't have to use it, but it makes things a lot quicker, smoother, and easier.

    You are donating for the premium version because Koush alone supports the app, and regularly updates it as well and supports it. None of the ROM devs on it do. They are there, for your convenience. He is providing a service for free, and gives you that much more, for a small one time cost. He didn't have to extend his hand to other devs to use ROM Manager, but he did, thereby increasing the user friendliness of installing different ROMs, OTA.

    So if you don't see a need/use for it, don't do it. Nothing is required about it, not even to get CM.

    FYI: Adamz does the smoked glass roms, Pete does the BB series.
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    you dont have to, you can DL to pc and place on your sdcard and install from sd card in the free rom manager. But for OTA DL and OTA updates, you would need the premium (unless you use CM as stated earlier)

    I personally bought the premium app to support him and the work he has done, rom manager and recovery update almost everyday. That's a lot of time and effort to keep coming out with those updates, aside from keeping up with the CM ROM as well
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    SPrecovery has been out for a while. If you make nandroid backups it stores them in one place.

    ClockworkRecovery is newer. It stores backups and looks for them in another place. This is one incompatibility which makes restoring SPR nandroid backups difficult without shell work on CWR.

    CWR offers no Advanced Nandroid Backup. SPR does. That means if you want to exclude a partition from CWR, you can't.

    Other than that, functionality described by previous posters covers it well.

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    Also, Clockwork Recovery takes longer to create and restore backups than SPRecovery.
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    The first reply to this thread covered it well with the pros and cons of both. Currently sprecovery is better, no reason to use clockwork unless you want to use Cyanogen as your rom of choice(and even then you still don't necessarily have to use clockwork).

    I own a Droid. Why do I care what the rest of the Android community is using as their recovery software? I just want to use whatever has the best support and is the most stable for my phone.
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    Tunnel vision...

    If you want greater dev support from an overall community, you don't go around making your own standards, because the others out there are not going to bend over backwards for one phone doing everything differently.

    As to which is better...I find that VERY debatable, and not clear at all.
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    What's the best way to get rid of clockwork and ROM Manager and go back to SP only?

    Nevermind..............I got it. lol
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    I dont get why people make this out to be like marriage, you dont have to stick with just 1. You can switch out between the 2 in less than 30 seconds...
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    That would be a good argument if not for the fact that sprecovery is far more versatile and can restore nandroids made with Clockwork. If you delete the recovery folder in Cyanogen you can install it without flashing Clockwork. That's not true the other way around.

    It's pretty clear which one is better at the moment though I think that will change in the future.
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    I disagree with the SPRecovery is superior or Clockwork is superior. Currently they are pretty even. However clockwork was behind as of a couple weeks ago. Daily updates have brought it up to par, and it soon (speculation) may pass SPR.

    OPINION PORTION TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT OR SHOVE IT DON'T REALLY CARE:
    The only thing to me that is certain is that the DEV support for clockwork is greater, and probably has the best DEV working w/ it (Koush). Main reason is ROM manager has is the most updated app I have ever owned. Just within the past 2 weeks all of the complaints about ROM manager have been answered. Download other ROMS done. Get over the air updates done. Fix pemissions done. Flash alternate recovery image done. Back to stock option done. Seriously the man is a beast.

    Alright sorry about the soap box.
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    ive had backup and restore issues with cw and im the kind of guy that has to try try the next best thing the day it drops.. and we all know when it comes to android the next best thing has all kinds of issues when it drops so I cant afford for my backups not to work every time
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    So BB is available now on Rom Mgr? What are the advantages of using this versus this forum?
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    I've kept my mouth shut on this line of thought long enough in my opinion. The rest of the android community had PLENTY of time to join in with the Droid and help with development. They even skipped us and went straight to the N1. Months ago they essentially told us to pound sand with root and ROMs cause it wasn't on an HTC product...we do things different BECAUSE they never supported us, not vice versa. It wasn't until Koush showed up that ANYTHING from that side of the community began to port over to us. SPRecovery was designed out of necessity due to lack of support from our other Android brethren, it is still superior to Clockwork because it affords rom.tgz, and because backups are in tar format (easier for users to manipulate). I don't hate, I still use clockwork and will continue to while its useful. I love Koush and think his work is friggin awesome, but to standardize ourselves with the crowd that essentially blackballed our entire platform until recently is bassackwards in my opinion.

    /end rant.

    On a note, this isn't meant to piss anyone off....its me venting frustration is all.
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    ease of use. OTA updates with premium rom manager
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