Bugless Beast versus the New iPhone

Discussion in 'Bugless' started by Phxphenom, Jun 25, 2010.

  1. tfkennady

    tfkennady Member

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    I hate Apple... an addendum

    As much as I hate Apple I will give them credit where credit is due;

    1. Their computers/software do some of the best video editing on the market no questions asked. The next competitor is not even really close. But that's it and I don't really know many people that do serious video editing and really need to fork out the cash to do what I'm talking about.

    2. Apple's marketing machine is a monster it's probably unsurpassed as far as mobile/cellular devices go, I mean how else do you explain 3 million iPads in 80 days, that can't multi-task or run flash?

    I have an Apple fan boy where I work and we debate on a daily basis Android vs. Apple and he's seriously bought into the "Apple Hype", all of his computers, phones, mp3 players, all Apple and he plans to buy an iPad as well.

    That's is not what bothers me about this situation, he bashes Android without ever trying it. Secondly since my phone is rooted and over-clocked etc. he believes all these features i have in the phone aren't already apart of Android despite how I've explained to him over and over that i don't have to do this, i choose to. (Then again choice is a foreign concept to Apple customers). back to my original point though, this guy is a tech geek just like me and that's my biggest problem. It's like he knows that Android is better but he's too much of an elitist (like many apple fan boys) to admit otherwise.

    a perfect example is the other day we're talking about home theaters and what you'd consider good speakers and we got on the topic of how Bose is over-priced and overrated but has this elitist stigma about them. we both hate Bose for those reasons and the fact there's better equipment available for less money.

    i couldn't help it so i said "now you know how i feel about apple." there was an awkward pause and then the conversation kinda ended lol.

    the reason i hate apple the most though, is probably because they get so much undeserved credit. All these "magical and revolutionary" ideas they've stolen from Open Source Communities, then they have the audacity to patent and then turn around and have a lawsuit against anyone else who uses something similar. Apple is not the only company that does this, but they are by far the worst. i mean look into it a lil bit it's ridiculous! Currently apple has lawsuits with HTC, Google, Nokia, Microsoft, Palm just to name a few. I'm surprised they haven't tried to sue Linux some how for the software ideas Apple has stolen from Ubuntu, Debian, Fedora etc.

    At the end of the day is Google trying to earn a profit from Android? Yes, of course they are but at least they have the decency to let me choose what I do with it after I've PAID for it. You can't say the same thing about apple.

    the worst part is Mr. Jobs and company have convinced all these people you don't want these other features that platforms offer. that these features will cause instability and the degradation of their devices with said features. additionally that the other platforms are inferior because of this.

    I digress, I think the natural progression of technology will eventually set things right and the Android Army will prevail lol.
     
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    i used to work for vzw way back in the day (2000-2001) so i can only imagine what it's like now. back then people were just happy to have a phone that had caller id and free long distance lol.
     
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    I really wish Adobe and Microsoft would spit in Apple's face, like Apple does to them. I've LOVE to see Apple try to compete in the PC space without Adobe and Microsoft software. And for smartphones? Yeah, enjoy trying to sell an iPhone4 to a corporation with no ActiveSync support.
     
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    I'm in the same boat as others here when it comes to the apple fan boys. I get into it at work where half of my department is split down the center. No one else can consider themselves geeks, but I've got rabid fans of Apple and others who were sensible enough to say "Why an iPad?! It's just a bigger iPhone."

    I digress.

    I have yet met anyone in my workplace that talks more computer geek than I do. Yet, I get shrugged aside and argued against when it comes to the iPhone. One guy likes to ask "Is this on your Droid? How about this? Can your Droid do this?" At which point, I pull out my BB rooted Droid w/ flash and spin circles around him. We did a search for a Google Translate app on the iPhone...$2. It's free for us. I told them about how my phone can be unlocked and Google won't care. I tell them of the shortcomings of the iPhone, the issues they have, and how they're merely sheep because they buy anything with an Apple logo on it.

    Its pathetic really, but like I said, I've got a lot of people that will say "I love my Droid." Others not so much. Apparently, their Droids are having issues they refuse to trade it in. Why? I have no clue other than how they believe they will lose their files... :\
     
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    do they realize unlike the iPhone they can remove their SD cards and transfer the files onto a computer if necessary?
     
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    I think the scariest thing about the Apple Faithful is how oblivious they are to the company's evolving business strategy. Apple isn't simply looking to provide a "superior user experience" through intelligent hardware and software design, but through controlling the content you consume, and how you consume it.

    Over the last several months, it's become very apparent that Apple's App Store isn't solely established to ensure that submitted Apps function and are malware free, but also to give Apple leverage over what content you even get to see on your device. The enormous sex app purge (which left SI Swimsuit and Playboy in the App Store), iSlam Muhammad being removed but Biblethumper wasn't, the Pulitzer Prize winner whose App was rejected, and the great "Freedom from Porn" tirade all lend itself to show Steve Jobs fully intends to leverage his App Store as a means of digital censorship in the name of a "superior user experience." People are paying hundreds of dollars to have their digital freedom compromised, and they don't even care.

    Since the whole "Freedom from Porn" incident, it's become quite clear that Steve Jobs is the single greatest threat to digital freedom since DRM.
     
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    how about the incident with the editor from Gizmodo? federal agents literally kicked in his door and ceased his computers after Gizmodo leaked the iPhone 4 that was found in that bar. the Apple corporation is run more like a cult than a business. i can't believe how it's customers can allow Apple's actions.
     
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    Found this today. Absolutely hilarious!

     
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    Wow, that Hitler thing was great hahaha.

    Although I wish at least one Android manufacturer would step up to the plate design-wise and make a more iPhone-esque phone. I know that most of you guys don't agree with Apple's ways, I don't for the most part either, but you've gotta admit.. that iPhone 4 looks pretty nice! My brother has on and it feels like holding a solid piece of glass. I love my Moto Droid and all, but I wouldn't mind if the next "Droid" phones stole some cues from the newest iPhone... just not the antenna system lol.

    Also their "facetime" implementation seems way better than a Skype/Qik albeit wifi-only blows.

    Plus it annoys me that Moto and HTC can't use a quality screen sensor:

    Plus that App store.. Android is catching up, but have you been on the app store lately? It blows ours away :(
     
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    You know I'm quite sure that my droid at 1.2ghz with Froyo is faster than iPhone 4 at loading web pages. I'm seriously amazed at how fast the new browser is.
     
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    there was a web site(can't remember which one) that did a benchmark test of the N1(running froyo) and the iPhone 4's ability to decode javascript, the N1 crushed the iPhone 4 as far as the benchmark test went.

    Then Engadget came out and did side by side web page loading test ,which was a completely different test and was an attempt to debunk the other sites findings.

    anyways not only did the N1 keep up/win the battery of these test, it was loading full flash pages, obviously the iPhone wasn't.

    Then the Flash plugin was uninstalled from the N1 and the test was run again... it wasn't even close. it's safe to say your rooted, oc'd droid is faster considering your benchmark scores are faster than an N1.

    mine too btw loldancedroid
     
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    the iphone is terrible. the only reason people like it is because it has been in the market so long everything works with iphone and therefore everyone wants their company to have an ios app. ever notice how half of all products start with an "i". iLive, iPlay, iSleep, iCooler, iPillow, iCouch, etc,...etc. its almost ridiculous, so thats why people still use iphones and that is why there app store is better (The other reason their app store is better is because all the devices are a uniform size, and specs)
    but when it comes to it, android can do so much more. and all the different companies give you a choice when it comes to hardware and software ui choices
     
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    i have to admit, this does dissapoint me a lot. the iphones screen is great. it looks good and it has amazing touch response. it is about the only good thing about the iphone, but its really good. and i wish my droid wasnt the worst there by far. android developers need to get that worked out if they want to truly blow apple out of the water (more than they already have)

    and i think maybe one company should make an android phone more elegant than whats availabe. my droid feels pretty strong, but the iphone always has looked very nice. at the nexus one is the best looking android phone, and its not good,, i would like to see a "pretty" android phone (with a proper screen and amazing performance, of course)
     
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