Bricked phone recovered with boot loader

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  1. BoxcuttaStyle

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    I think this all sounds great. If we can make it impossible that really opens up our ability to 'explore' different options more aggressively without any worry.

    I do think it's important to distinguish the difference between doing this via adb and doing this via the SPRecovery. I did the wipe/factory reset option in recovery to see what happened when returning to stock the first time. In my experience it did wipe any 'added' data but left everything else. Basically it was completely back to an 'out of box' state. I had to start up the phone again as if it was the first time. I even had to reprogram it via Verizon's automated dial-in.

    I'm not sure any of that is important but I didn't want people to be confused by the differences of the two.

    Good luck on your search and thanks for the heads up when using adb :icon_eek:.
     
  2. Yakuzagang5

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    One question... How do you ACCIDENTALY type all instead of data? very confused... those are NOWHERE near each other.... drunk perhaps? lol
     
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    Perhaps I'm the only one that seems to see this differently. he DID NOT BRICK his phone. he wiped it but if his phone turned on at all period it is not bricked. The fact that it was functional enough to turn on and be accessed to re flash or whatever proves it.

    If his phone whether it had a battery or was plugged into the wall did not turn on, no lcd, no moto M.. nothing.. that's a brick. It's called a brick for a reason, because it's completely dead and nonfunctional. aka throw it in the garbage dead.

    sorry for the little rant, perhaps people view bricked differently. He did do quite a number on that phone no doubt, but it was still functional and repairable.
     
  4. jinx10000

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    I view a brick as a phone that is useless as other than a paper weight. A phone flashlight falls in the same category for me.
    It was useless to him until Motorola fixed it. Therefore, it was as useful as a brick to him until Motorola fixed it.
     
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    If I formatted my computers hard drive, a non computer techie would say it was "bricked" that doesn't make it so. He said his device was functional and able to be restored. To me it means it wasn't bricked, he just didn't know how to fix it himself.

    I view it the same as if someone tried installing a new and failed and couldn't boot the phone up all the way and didn't know what to do. The phone isn't bricked it just needs to be restored using a recovery program like sprecovery or whatever.

    he REALLY f'd his phone up though so yeah that's a toughy, but if the phone works it wasn't bricked in my opinion. Even if it did take verizon to reflash his phone

    Edit: Ok you changed your post I quoted after I posted. And that exactly proves my point though. It was bricked "to him" because he didn't know what to do, the device itself was not Bricked... if that makes sense to anyone.

    honestly people can view it anyway they want to I don't care, I'm happy he got his phone working
     
  6. miamidroid

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    ??

    anyone .
     
  7. jinx10000

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    I agree with my post and your posts about this. People keep ranting about this silly topic. I even saw one person call someone retarded because they said their phone was bricked. Ridiculous.

    I think everyone knows what people are meaning when they say bricked. It was at a point where he was unable to use it or fix it.

    It is not like some ignorant person that cannot fix their OS because they formatted their hard drive. It requires tools that only one specific group of people currently have. You couldn't have fixed it. I couldn't have fixed it. He couldn't have fixed it. And Verizon could have told him to go away since he had a rooted phone.

    I can't wait until someone actually gets the necessary files from Verizon. It would make me feel a lot better about some of the stuff I try...

    Edit: FYI Not saying you are ridiculous. I am referring to the hostility of another person on this subject.
     
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    Well I hope I didn't come off as calling anyone an idiot for at least in my own opinion knowing what a bricked phone is. I guess everyone can agree to disagree. All I can really say is that from my point of view his phone was not bricked. the fact he or perhaps any of us maybe didn't have the knowledge, the tools or ability to fix it doesn't change the fact that the phone is completely functional and able to be restored.

    I would also wager that there is someone savvy enough out there doing phone development and hacking that can reflash and not just moto and verizon. I've seen some of these hackers like cyanogen and guys on alldroid really do some amazing stuff. so it kinda is like a formatted drive and we just happen to be the unknowing end user..

    I hear what you're saying though and can understand that view too. I just feel brick is a completely dead phone, not just one that is currently unusable due to a software issue since it is fixable.

    edit: roflcoper you know what, someone should make a poll on this. does brick mean :1) a completely dead non functional device or 2) a unsusable phone that is still functioning (powers up, lcd screen kicks on, ...etc)
     
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  9. jinx10000

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    I hope you're right about this and we just need to wait for them to release the required info. But I'm willing to bet noone other than Verizon/Motorola has flashed the Droids through the bootloader at this time.

    LOL. No poll necessary. I actually almost totally agree with you. I just felt like arguing the other side for some dumb reason.
     
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    haha agreed, I think i rather like you. I do the same thing playing devils advocate so to speak from time to time. really gets people riled up hahah.
     
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    THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU


    Am downloading and testing


    turns out ikithme actually brought this to our community. With much thanks to dordodim for finding the sbf.

    dordodim ... you may have just became a droid god

    I still want to thank Skrilax_CZ for bringing this to my atention
     
    #36 sos567656765, Feb 22, 2010
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