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Discussion in 'Droid Bionic Hacks' started by Globed, Nov 24, 2011.

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    So i have been poking around. I know the bootloader usually comes after the bios its what loads the O.S. or the runtime enviorment. The program ive assumed is part of the processor or bios. Now the kindle fire has the same processor as the bionic the ti omap 4430. The kindle also come with an unlocked bootloader. Has anyone looked into the kindle fire seeing how its unlocked in order to find a method or a way to unlock the bionic bootloader? I could be completely off but.

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    There is no relation between the kindle and unlocking motorolas.

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    Jw ya know. The kindle fire has the same processor same version of android but one build is ment for tablets the other is for mobile. Phones. I figured since the bootloading program is the same maybe there was a way it would help unlock the bionic. Just thoughts.

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    Not a bad thought!

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    I figured for slandered computers the bootloader ultimately resides not in the os but with the bios so theoretically. If u have the same bootloading program or similar. In the same processor bc they are the same. N one is unlocked while the other isnt. You should be able to look at the kindle fire figure a way to lock and unlock it and use that info to help find a similar path yes?

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    The.bootloader being locked means that u need the special/secret encryption keys in order to make changes and be able to make customizations and/or install different kernels. So looking at an unlocked device would not help at all in figuring out how to unlock bionics.

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    I understand that but if u can lock the kindle same bootloading program and unlock it that should atleast help find. A method in unlocking the bionic not saying it will unlock it but atleast help.

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    Just thoughts man.

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    Who created the encryptions for the bootloader if its loaded by TI. Is it modfyed and encrypted by moto?

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    from what i have read its government grade encryption so unless you have a specific key there is no hope i would guess??
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    that's cool man. To me im just saying it wont help that's all. Maybe someone could use it to help but I don't see how it will help. The best bet is for someone at Motorola to leak the secret key they sign it with. Cracking it otherwise, not to be cynical, is extremely hard. Another option would be some safestrap method where u can one time boot using custom stuff but it wouldn't be permanent unless the bootloader is truly unlocked.

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    Motorola has the secret keys not TI

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    It is but if the fire has an unlocked and locked version. And the bootloading program is the same and let say the encryption is generated by TI and given to moto as an option for locking if u could get the key buy unlocking the locked version of the kindle fire shouldnt that key work for the bionic. Thats what i dont know who generates the key? Moto or texas instruments?

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    oh boy you really have a stretch of a imagination. did you eat to much turkey?
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    No..well maybe haha but most processor manufactures generate the encryption im not sure about mobile phones but juss thoughts

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    for bionics case, i believe at the request of verizon, motorola added the protection to encrypt and lock the bootloader. you need the keys and decryption method to be able to bypass the protection they put in place so that you can not modify the kernel. just google it, all over the web.
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    Oh no i know i have like i said just thoughts n i didnt know who truly generates the encryption signature.

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    Id be nice if there waiting to unlock it for isc. The phone was designed with isc in mind. Bootloader locked sucks ha

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    Maybe we need to go oldschool with it and. Protest Verizon and or moto

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    do a quick google search and you'll find that this has already happened and probably still is occuring. one example is here:

    Petition Online if you do more google searches you'll find all sorts of articles on this and customer's being unhappy, many switching from motorola products. Motorola made claims they would soften up and allow a way to unlock it in the near future, but no changes have yet been made and from what I read, verizon still has a say in this as well.

    As of now, I myself am not that worried about it. The bionic should receive ICS at some point anyway through an official update and until then, you can still load custom gingerbread roms as root was obtained long ago. Overclocking is not something i care about as the phone is incredibly fast already, so i see no need for that.

    Anyways, we'll see what happens
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